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1  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Dilemna on: December 19, 2014, 05:13:48 PM
Keep it, tip the staff £50 when your next in.  

Think how many times they have mugged punters off, how likely is it they spot the £100 and sack an individual?  I mean how do you trace it?

Ladbrokes 100% trace it.  Her till will be £100 wrong.  When I worked for Ladbrokes nearly 20 years ago I remember a staff member getting fired for a £100 cash difference....it is obviously worth a bit less now and circumstances might be different etc but she gets a severe bollocking and written warning at best I would think.  Pretty sure I got a written warning for a score difference all those years ago (although I was worlds worst cashier to be fair....too busy watching the racing)

to be fair though, she aint suited to the job.
2  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Dilemna on: December 19, 2014, 05:12:40 PM
Hand it back.

what they would do the other way round is irrelveant, do unto them as you would want them to do to you

Karma.

Yes because karma is massively relevant.

3  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Dilemna on: December 19, 2014, 04:58:03 PM
oh and thin brag brah
4  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Dilemna on: December 19, 2014, 04:54:32 PM
It would for me 100% depend on if I would have got the money back if it was me who had been shorted. Regardless of the answer being due to honesty or incompetence.

Go back in, if they dont remember they gave you too much then whats the chances they remember theyd paid you too little.
5  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Tips for Tikay on: December 18, 2014, 07:58:08 PM
Regardless of each way shape.......Saturdays going to be interesting!!!!!!!!

Yeah when they go 1/5 3 on the ladbroke
6  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Racing Thread on: December 18, 2014, 07:55:29 PM
6.15 Kemp Showtime Blues 0.5pt e/w 11-1  BV Lads WHill  pretty dirty e/w shape to race and sire has 21% strike rate on all weather sprints. Trainer has 1 win and 3 places from last 11 a/w runs.  worth a tiny speculative punt?

bet more points bro, n1

decent tip earlier aswell
7  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Racing Thread on: December 18, 2014, 07:49:48 PM
Does Derek Thompson watch the same race as the rest of us?  Is there a worse commentator in Racing.  

Its clear what hes backed in the race, I backed one earlier and he was congratulating the piece of c*** for its run it second when its been held 20lb below its mark. I think he commentates based on what hes bet.

Varsovian at 11/2 in the last it kempton seems decent, 1/4 maybe better incase theres an improved/3lb is enough to get it beat.
8  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Tips for Tikay on: December 17, 2014, 08:37:17 PM
One the basis of the (bizarre) lineup Rodgers has put out again tonight I think 13/2 Raheem Sterling is a really, really good bet to score first tonight.

gc took it for an interest, cheers
9  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Scottish Football Betting & General Discussion Thread (Open to All) on: December 17, 2014, 05:39:10 PM
Would Logan make it up tho? I just can't see he would.

That's not the point.  I don't no either so really couldn't say.  But to find someone guilty of such an offence I'd at least want to see some evidence or witness.  

But there are no witnesses. Therefore, wouldn't it be more reasonable to accept the word of the victim?

I'd say no.  If there are no witnesses there should be no charges.  Perhaps a quiet word with the player and it brought to his attention that should there be any further misdemeanours then it won't be looked upon favourably.  

Put this into context:

Ian Black Was Banned for 10 games for betting not only in games he wasn't involved in (against the rules in Scotland) but betting against his own team.  There was a body of evidence against him.

Duncan Ferguson who nutted Jock McStay got a 12 game ban alongside a spell in Bar.

I don't mean to pick out Rangers players but these are scenarios I remember were there was clear evidence of a breach in rules.

Jim Goodwin - 3 game band recently for an Elbow, he's also a serial offender.

A player at Berwick was banned for 6 games - Jack Hay - I think for a tweet he made again clear evidence.  

If there was evidence against Tonev as I have said I'd be the first to want him out and whilst we were at it I'd want that Zionist scumbag Biton removed as well.  

Leigh Griffiths - was filmed in a song which, imo had overtly racists undertones and would have been deserving of a ban.  

No rape trials, dont get seen lads....

There still has to be evidence, or at least corroboration in Scots Law and despite the fact that the SNP decided to remove this it will be back soon because Sturgeon knows it was a really silly move and just one of the few reasons Kenny MacAskill was bulleted.

The point is a victims word should be taken to the point at least an investigation occurs in any process. Then theres the reasonable doubt, the only reasonable doubt in cases where someone in a football match claims to be racially abused, in the vast number of cases is that they misheard/misunderstood what was said. I cant imagine anyone would lie as everytime racism on the field rears its ugly head, the victim comes off worse off in terms of stress incurred. Theres nothing to gain for the victim, tonevs evidence was lol, easy case.

I mostly agree, I am not saying Logan has lied, not at all.  But Neither do I think in the odds of probability that a guy should receive a 7 match man when there is no proof.  

What do you know about Tonev's evidence?

Didnt he claim that he couldnt have said it because he didnt even know what c*** meant?

You  either decide he did say it or didnt for me, he offered no plausible alternative as to what logan heard, because he couldnt. There was no middle ground a la the terry case (I know he was guilty). I disagree that you cant find someone guilty based on one persons evidence being judged truthful over the others, they were there to weigh one case against the other and came out that one must be the truth.

It seems you are judging on technicality, do you truly believe that he didnt say it?
10  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Scottish Football Betting & General Discussion Thread (Open to All) on: December 17, 2014, 05:01:34 PM
Would Logan make it up tho? I just can't see he would.

That's not the point.  I don't no either so really couldn't say.  But to find someone guilty of such an offence I'd at least want to see some evidence or witness.  

But there are no witnesses. Therefore, wouldn't it be more reasonable to accept the word of the victim?

I'd say no.  If there are no witnesses there should be no charges.  Perhaps a quiet word with the player and it brought to his attention that should there be any further misdemeanours then it won't be looked upon favourably.  

Put this into context:

Ian Black Was Banned for 10 games for betting not only in games he wasn't involved in (against the rules in Scotland) but betting against his own team.  There was a body of evidence against him.

Duncan Ferguson who nutted Jock McStay got a 12 game ban alongside a spell in Bar.

I don't mean to pick out Rangers players but these are scenarios I remember were there was clear evidence of a breach in rules.

Jim Goodwin - 3 game band recently for an Elbow, he's also a serial offender.

A player at Berwick was banned for 6 games - Jack Hay - I think for a tweet he made again clear evidence.  

If there was evidence against Tonev as I have said I'd be the first to want him out and whilst we were at it I'd want that Zionist scumbag Biton removed as well.  

Leigh Griffiths - was filmed in a song which, imo had overtly racists undertones and would have been deserving of a ban.  

No rape trials, dont get seen lads....

There still has to be evidence, or at least corroboration in Scots Law and despite the fact that the SNP decided to remove this it will be back soon because Sturgeon knows it was a really silly move and just one of the few reasons Kenny MacAskill was bulleted.

The point is a victims word should be taken to the point at least an investigation occurs in any process. Then theres the reasonable doubt, the only reasonable doubt in cases where someone in a football match claims to be racially abused, in the vast number of cases is that they misheard/misunderstood what was said. I cant imagine anyone would lie as everytime racism on the field rears its ugly head, the victim comes off worse off in terms of stress incurred. Theres nothing to gain for the victim, tonevs evidence was lol, easy case.
11  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Scottish Football Betting & General Discussion Thread (Open to All) on: December 17, 2014, 04:25:45 PM
Would Logan make it up tho? I just can't see he would.

That's not the point.  I don't no either so really couldn't say.  But to find someone guilty of such an offence I'd at least want to see some evidence or witness. 

But there are no witnesses. Therefore, wouldn't it be more reasonable to accept the word of the victim?

I'd say no.  If there are no witnesses there should be no charges.  Perhaps a quiet word with the player and it brought to his attention that should there be any further misdemeanours then it won't be looked upon favourably. 

Put this into context:

Ian Black Was Banned for 10 games for betting not only in games he wasn't involved in (against the rules in Scotland) but betting against his own team.  There was a body of evidence against him.

Duncan Ferguson who nutted Jock McStay got a 12 game ban alongside a spell in Bar.

I don't mean to pick out Rangers players but these are scenarios I remember were there was clear evidence of a breach in rules.

Jim Goodwin - 3 game band recently for an Elbow, he's also a serial offender.

A player at Berwick was banned for 6 games - Jack Hay - I think for a tweet he made again clear evidence. 

If there was evidence against Tonev as I have said I'd be the first to want him out and whilst we were at it I'd want that Zionist scumbag Biton removed as well. 

Leigh Griffiths - was filmed in a song which, imo had overtly racists undertones and would have been deserving of a ban. 

No rape trials, dont get seen lads....
12  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Racing Thread on: December 17, 2014, 04:15:20 PM
how the hell does celestial bay go off 8/1 in the last at lingfield, when planetoid franked the form all over early on the card.
13  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Racing Thread on: December 17, 2014, 03:26:04 PM
The only danger was Harry Skelton getting neck ache from looking around so much!

His action suggests he'll be even more useful on better ground.

An outsider for the Festival maybe?



Only bad run was on good ground at chelts

Commentary seem to think its pretty heavy there today so maybe more true GTS ground would suit.
14  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Racing Thread on: December 17, 2014, 03:21:42 PM
Value At Risk looks a very interesting runner at Newbury

Joined Dan Skelton from the pharmicist after 5 very promising bumper runs, culminating in a close up 3rd at Punchestown to Shaneshill and Silver Concorde.

No idea if it's fit or can jump a hurdle, but if it can, 5/4 is an absolute gift.

Laying 4/1 Jack Frost might be even better. If that can give 7lbs to VAR and beat it, might as well give up looking at the form book.

Punchestown, Fairyhouse and Cheltenham form v Fakenham and Ludlow form. Hmmmm.


lovely prospect, gc
15  Community Forums / Betting Tips and Sport Discussion / Re: Racing Thread on: December 17, 2014, 03:07:52 PM
Any thoughts on this next race at Linfield.  Is there a chance to play a dirty e/w here with there being an odds on fav and 8 runners?  

I thought there was quite a lot to like about Moovoy.  

n1

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