Yr right that it's not been made big mention of but it was mentioned a couple of times - the nature of the thread may mean that people silently assent to the view that the amount given versus amount taken is not appropriate.

So I give my tuppenceworth. There are bigger issues maybe, but they've been well covered in what's been written so far

I find it odd that people would begrudge someone £155 per week (even with employers ex's and other ex's on top) whatever the % of the total budget that represented.

If wages = money given to good causes then, since it's not a zero sum game we can say that money given to good causes is greater than zero - this is good. There may be a line where this makes no sense, ie taking 1 million to raise 1 million is probably slightly unjustifiable, taking 10k to give 10k to good causes is 10k up on someone sitting around doing nothing and nothing being raised.

All the points about transparency and clarity are fair and like Satcom, I've met all the people at G4L a few times so am very hopeful this will be resolved -  and I hope my confidence that it will be is well placed.

But getting antsy about a wage of £155 per week is just a bit silly

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This weekend was watching a conspiracy film on youtube called 9/11 Mysteries - no great hypothesis on the why (though some suggestions made) but a very clear case for the collapse of the towers not being a structural failure based on the planes hitting.

I found the whole thing interesting and the details surrounding why on earth Tower 7 collapsed later in the day to be very compelling arguments for the fact that the buildings fell as result of controlled demolitions.

I know it's a bit unrelated but it was on my mind. Anyway, I'm now convinced the WTC collpasing was not only as a result of planes hitting it.

Elvis works in our chipshop





Don't start this again...

Well, I'm sorry if you don't like it but Elvis does work in our chipshop

This weekend was watching a conspiracy film on youtube called 9/11 Mysteries - no great hypothesis on the why (though some suggestions made) but a very clear case for the collapse of the towers not being a structural failure based on the planes hitting.

I found the whole thing interesting and the details surrounding why on earth Tower 7 collapsed later in the day to be very compelling arguments for the fact that the buildings fell as result of controlled demolitions.

I know it's a bit unrelated but it was on my mind. Anyway, I'm now convinced the WTC collpasing was not only as a result of planes hitting it.

Elvis works in our chipshop

Gotta say I'd like to think I'd have the courage to intervene but until your there you never quite know. Did see a lad get a brick hurled at him at Leamington Spa one evening, fair clonked him on the head. A couple of his girlfriends were standing over his prostrate body wailing while a large ish gang of youths stood in the nearby park from where they'd thrown it.

Just approaching the situation at some pace, in the spirit I used to approach a fight in progress in a bar was enough to have the gang move on. Got me a lot of brownie points with my girl and a serious telling off too so I kinda identify with where your family are coming from smithy.

Brings to mind the case of my brother -exact details not needed but suffice to say one of our younger cousins - a girl - rang him to say a chap had caused her some problems (quite serious), he in a Sonny from the Godfather manner, was round there in fairly short order to dish out something of a pasting.

Upshot was attempted murder charge, downgraded eventually to a bodily harm conviction and 6 months inside. The guy he battered was very much 'known' to the police but no let off due to that.

It's a very unjust world in many ways - I would never advocate violence as a solution but man you gotta understand how these things happen.

Gotta say I'm getting reactionary in my dotage and the American model where a home invader can be met with any kind of brutality and you won't be charged is very attractive to me.

Anyway, good luck smithy, hope the matter all goes away

Found that really uplifting and couldn't take my eyes off of it

Great stuff

I just like them giggling like schoolgirls at their own jokes, makes me laugh anyway. Not too bothered about the fill in material about who did what, when and why - after all, as bolt says, I can see that for myself.

Same reason why I prefer fanzone when watching footie on Sky rather than too clever/dull by far commentators.

very kind suz, but not a hall of famer like you :-)

Felt terrified actually that day but was a great intro to the live game.

I've thought it before but Padraig P and Jesse May are just hilarious.

Also, in the final is a chap called Theo Dalton, anyone who has played on Tribeca over the years will have seen him be succesful in tourneys there as Rabid Rat.

First live tourney I ever played at Luton and I happened to sit down right next to him (having never met him before) and when we got talking I discovered he was a.k.a rabid rat.

Interesting first live table that day as Ram Vaswani and Paul Alterman were also at the same table, didn't feel outclassed at all :-)

Knew you were in the money but didn't know you went on to win it Suz, very well done

xx

When I was a young punk and faux anarchist I was given pause for thought when someone asked.

'What happens when your freedom limits mine ? '.

I think this applies to speech as well as actions.

 
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Hand Start.
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Seat 1 : dompe has $1,960
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Seat 2 : bratman396 has $2,400
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Seat 3 : foxxster has $2,540
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Seat 4 : "Lepper" has $1,920
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Seat 5 : Mr. Nice has $2,520
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Seat 6 : hutchy24 has $2,040
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Seat 7 : tomr182 has $960
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Seat 8 : Swordsman has $1,880
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Seat 9 : Manny Homer has $1,780
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : tomr182 is the dealer.
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Swordsman posted small blind.
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Manny Homer posted big blind.
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Game [7] started with 9 players.
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Nov 5 12:55:29] : Seat 3 : foxxster has
[Nov 5 12:55:33] : dompe folded.
[Nov 5 12:55:39] : bratman396 folded.
[Nov 5 12:55:42] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 4 min. 
[Nov 5 12:55:42] : foxxster called 40 and raised 160
[Nov 5 12:55:47] : "Lepper" folded.
[Nov 5 12:55:50] : Mr. Nice called 200
[Nov 5 12:55:50] : hutchy24 folded.
[Nov 5 12:55:52] : tomr182 called 200
[Nov 5 12:55:54] : Swordsman folded.
[Nov 5 12:55:56] : Manny Homer folded.
[Nov 5 12:55:56] : Dealing flop.
[Nov 5 12:55:56] : Board cards [ ]
[Nov 5 12:56:02] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 3 min. 
[Nov 5 12:56:03] : foxxster bet 900
[Nov 5 12:56:08] : Mr. Nice called 900
[Nov 5 12:56:13] : tomr182 folded.
[Nov 5 12:56:13] : Dealing turn.
[Nov 5 12:56:13] : Board cards [ ]
[Nov 5 12:56:16] : foxxster bet 80
[Nov 5 12:56:21] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 3 min. 
[Nov 5 12:56:24] : Mr. Nice called 80 and raised 1,340 and is All-in
[Nov 5 12:56:26] : foxxster called 1,340
[Nov 5 12:56:27] : Showdown!
[Nov 5 12:56:27] : Seat 3 : foxxster has
[Nov 5 12:56:28] : Seat 3 : foxxster has
[Nov 5 12:56:28] : Seat 5 : Mr. Nice has Ah
[Nov 5 12:56:33] : Board cards [ ]
[Nov 5 12:56:33] : Seat 5 : Mr. Nice has Ah
[Nov 5 12:56:33] : Mr. Nice has Flush A7654
[Nov 5 12:56:33] : Seat 3 : foxxster has
[Nov 5 12:56:33] : foxxster has Straight Flush 87654
[Nov 5 12:56:33] : foxxster wins 5,300 with Straight Flush 87654
[Nov 5 12:56:41] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 3 min. 
[Nov 5 12:56:43] : Hand is over.
[Nov 5 12:56:43] : Stakes: 20/40 Current level: 1 Next level in: 3 min. 

Depends how much time you want to spend driving while your there. Orlando is kind of in the middle of nowhere and parks are really the order of the day. Flushy may have some good ideas since he lived in Florida for a while

A few things I've done and enjoyed:

Go deep sea fishing from a reasonably pctureqsue harbour like in Sarasota on the gulf coast - around 2 hrs from Orlando.

Visit somewhere like St Armands Circle, also Sarasota, picturesque, boutiquey, nice restuarants - a very different America from that presented in Orlando.

Definitely visit the Gulf beaches - any town or city south of tampa likely to be enjoyable. Sarasota has particularly nice beaches. Did I mention Sarasota ?

Parks - a drive out to Busch Gardens in Tampa is well worthwhile - most of the Orlando parks are great fun i think but unless with very young kids I'd probably avoid the disney parks. Downtown Disney and the Boardwalk offer a reasonable night out albeit in a slightly ToyTown way.

Get down to the everglades maybe, great experience but probably 7 hours from Orlando. Maybe the keys, but they're even further south of course.

Again on the gulf coast, north of tampa, somewhere like Tarpon springs maybe, a working harbour of mainly greek heritage sponge fishermen. Get an americo/greek meze maybe ?

If I think of anything else I'll add them but there's a few ideas.

You should have a great time, hope you do

Would all final peeps agree to make it 12 or 15 min levels ? 30 mins is a heeellllllllllllllluva long time for an STT

Love

foxxster (nirvana)

When I sat down to play live on Friday I told the table I was the world's worse shuffler / dealer and if anyone wanted to help out I'd appreciate it. The chaps mucked in and did all my shuffling for me but I thought I can deal at least.

The very first hand it's my deal. Deal kind of went OK but I kept the cards in my hand ready for the flop !

Forgot to burn a card and put the flop cards down including two aces. One of my table matey's had already gone all in and been called, turns out he had KK v A rag. This lead to some vociferous ' I ain't happies' since of course he's got outflopped badly and my lack of burning one and having the cards in my hand (a mechanic ? moi ?) got him quite upset.

He was right to be annoyed but I quietly explained (in a very loud voice :-) there's a way of saying these things to someone and that I didn't appreciate his approach.

Like all these things, storm in a teacup and after the initial minor fracas we're all the best of friends and they seem quite impressed by my beginners luck as I collect all the chips :-)

Point is, I loved all this - the fighting, the arguing, the making up -  and I really liked the aplomb with which all them other guys shuffled and dealt and I think I would really like to be able to do that as easily as them so I had time to work on things like picking up tells and such.

Since I don't play for money really I know I'm just gonna get out more and play as many of these smaller tourneys as I can

Just my thruppence

xx