COME ON BARCELONA!!!

[Rod Paradise]

In all honesty I'm disappointed that the ref didn't let the first "goal" stand.

Then we would have seen eleven versus eleven and a great game of football, win or lose.

Just another case of the ref playing far to big a part in the proceedings.

It was shaping up to be one of the great games, and at the end of the day I want to watch great games.

Mate that's nonsense by the Laws of the game it should have been a goal and a sending off. You can't give the advantage to the team who fouls just to make a game.

Rod you are wrong. To quote the rulebook, the red card offence is:

"denying an obvious goalscoring opportunity to an opponent moving towards the player's goal by an offence punishable by a free kick or a penalty kick."

How can Lehmann have denied a goalscoring opportunity if a goal has been scored?

I'm sure we've all seen instances where, for example, a defender on the line handles the ball but it still goes in the net. The ref doesn't send off the defender, he awards a goal and gets on with the game.

In general I thought the ref was absolute garbage and Arsenal were very unlucky, but I did have a laugh at Arsene "their goal was offside, but I didn't see the free kick which led to our goal" Wenger. He must have the oddest eyesight in Europe.

Sorry Div - you've got 2 different things mixed up. A defender handling the ball, but it goes in means he hasn't denied a goal scoring opportunity. Lehman denies Eto'o a clear goal scoring opportunity. The fact that the ball ran on to another player, giving him an opportunity is irrelevant.

[Graham C]

Agreed Nakor and having sobered up I'm a bit more positive this morning.

I'm a bit concerned about Henry now, it would have been great for him to say last night that he would stay to cheer up the Gooners a bit but he didn't and I can't help but think he'll go now.  I'd love to be wrong though.

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Arsenals' open top bus reversing back into the garage!!!!

[whufc65]

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[Triple X]

well that was a sombre eurostar journey at 8am this morning.

That being said - I had an amazing day in Paris yesterday - amazingly good natured with no trouble (that i saw) and to see my team in the Champions League Final will always stay with me.

I was in row 76 which is the very last row in the stadium so my perspective was good but the view was a little too far away!  it was a very surreal game for me for some reason, but that always happens in big finals.  Everything felt strange but it was probaby because we were so far away.

I reserve my judgement on henry's / wenger's comments until i have seen them - tho being a bad loser isnt a bad thing necessarily.  it shows passion whcih i like.

Dont know much about the offside goal so again i need to see it on the box - but why are some sating its off and some its on?  Surely its fact one way or the other.  what did TV say?

As for Nemesis and Kev's laughs etc - i shall just ignore it.  I find it a bit small minded but our failures is all they have to cling on to.  I dont rise to it - how can i after a witnessed such a proud achievement!

Anyway - off to delet a few more Henry priceless e-mails - have only had 7 so far today!

up the gooners

[Nem]

well that was a sombre eurostar journey at 8am this morning.

That being said - I had an amazing day in Paris yesterday - amazingly good natured with no trouble (that i saw) and to see my team in the Champions League Final will always stay with me.

I was in row 76 which is the very last row in the stadium so my perspective was good but the view was a little too far away!  it was a very surreal game for me for some reason, but that always happens in big finals.  Everything felt strange but it was probaby because we were so far away.

I reserve my judgement on henry's / wenger's comments until i have seen them - tho being a bad loser isnt a bad thing necessarily.  it shows passion whcih i like.

Dont know much about the offside goal so again i need to see it on the box - but why are some sating its off and some its on?  Surely its fact one way or the other.  what did TV say?

As for Nemesis and Kev's laughs etc - i shall just ignore it.  I find it a bit small minded but our failures is all they have to cling on to.  I dont rise to it - how can i after a witnessed such a proud achievement!

Anyway - off to delet a few more Henry priceless e-mails - have only had 7 so far today!

up the gooners

 

[Colchester Kev]

As for Nemesis and Kev's laughs etc - i shall just ignore it.  I find it a bit small minded but our failures is all they have to cling on to.  I dont rise to it - how can i after a witnessed such a proud achievement!

This reply is not aimed directly at you, It is a general reply to all my friends who are afflicted with the misfortune of supporting the @rse.


Look at all the posts and comments on the forum when Spurs lost to west ham .... plenty of @rse fans had a pop, and I ignored their jibes .  (it wasnt easy ..i can promise you that)

I took great pleasure in last nights result, well thats not strictly true, I WAS ECSTATIC about last nights result.
The fact that Wenger cried like a bitch and Henry looked to blame anyone rather than accept that he missed more chances in that game than he has in the premiership for the last few seasons (sums up the mans arrogance.) made it even more satisfying.

Lets clear a few things up, Barcelona have more reason to be aggrieved at the ref than @rse, They should have been 1-0 up and the free kick that led directly to @rse's goal was a blatant dive... thats FACT !!

YES I have gloated, YES I took pleasure in it, YES I laughed loud and hearty.... AND guess what, the reaction from the players and fans of that shower just makes me laugh longer, louder and gives me a warm and satisfying glow.

Now you as a club have to re group, move into your state of the art new stadium and contemplate life without Thierry Henry.....  Oh yes.. and i suppose the biggest thing your club needs to do is LEARN TO ACCEPT DEFEAT WITH DIGNITY !!!

I look forward to next season already ... and I for one hope that the @rse/Spurs rivalry goes right to the last day of next season too...

Have a nice day and enjoy all the news bulletins and newspaper articles today.

Lots of love

Kev.

xxx

[Triple X]

that is the 3rd European final i have been to in a row now and lost.

BUT - at least we get there!

One for the statisticians but those 3 finals in the last 11 years have been a Cup Winners Cup, a UEFA Cup and now The Champ League.  Surely no other club has done that??

Nemesis - is still dreaming of 1984 and Graham Roberts etc - shame is he was only probably 10 yrs old!!!  No european finals in over 20 years, in fact hardly any european football at all in that time! the last time they won the league none of us were alive (except maybe Tikay) and it was in black and white, the FA Cup was what 15 years ago?? so in the last 15 years am i right in thinking your only trophy win was the Worthless Cup??

So when i say small-minded that is what i am referring to - when you are one of the worlds best teams you have some low points like last night - but boy do we have some high points - something to which you will know NOTHING about!!

And that is why i can take the low points like last night and fell ok - coz i have seen us go a whole campaign unbeaten, get to every major european final and winning one in 1993, seen not 1 but 2 doubles and countless FA Cups and finals....

Enjoy today Spurs fans because I enjoy EVERY day being a Gooner

[NoflopsHomer]

Get a grip man, we won't even be this bad if/when you fellas get knocked oot the World Cup.

How prolonged a rubdown do you need to dish out? I think your point has been made and you've started to go over to the bad place.

 

[Div]

Sorry Div - you've got 2 different things mixed up. A defender handling the ball, but it goes in means he hasn't denied a goal scoring opportunity. Lehman denies Eto'o a clear goal scoring opportunity. The fact that the ball ran on to another player, giving him an opportunity is irrelevant.

Rod, the ref seems to agree with me:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4993994.stm

The incident last night happened so quickly that I don't see how you can discriminate between Lehmann tackling Eto'o and Giuly scoring. It all happened so quickly there was a clear advantage gained by Barcelona - as Mr Hauge seems to now accept.

[Rod Paradise]

Sorry Div - you've got 2 different things mixed up. A defender handling the ball, but it goes in means he hasn't denied a goal scoring opportunity. Lehman denies Eto'o a clear goal scoring opportunity. The fact that the ball ran on to another player, giving him an opportunity is irrelevant.

Rod, the ref seems to agree with me:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4993994.stm

The incident last night happened so quickly that I don't see how you can discriminate between Lehmann tackling Eto'o and Giuly scoring. It all happened so quickly there was a clear advantage gained by Barcelona - as Mr Hauge seems to now accept.

I'll refer you to Stuart Dougal if you start quoting the ref as backup

The foul denied Eto'o a clear goalscoring opportunity. Even if the ref had allowed the goal I think Lehmann had to go.

[Triple X]

They say that the only perverse pleasure that eunuchs had in the Emperors harem was on the few occasions when the Emperor "couldn't perform" his sexual duties and thus in their minds for that brief moment they were almost on par.

I always felt sorry for eunuchs when I heard this story.

Have had the same feeling about the Spurs supporters whilst I have read their many emails and postings here today.........

[Colchester Kev]

   glad to see you taking it so well

[ifm]

So it is the day after the night before.

I have awoken with a bad taste in my mouth today.

Arsenal lost - gutted.

However again they do it badly - yes they were 1-0 up with 15 minutes to go in the European Cup Final, yes the ref gave some bad decisions (booked Henry when he won the ball clean, didn't give various fouls etc) but he did give the free kick for the goal, he didn't give a goal for the Lehmann incident.  He could of played on (I believe he should) given the goal and not sent Lehmann off - to the letter of the law.  But he didn't, yes it changed the game and Arsenal had looked like a class act for the first 20 minutes - but if any team can hang on for 70 minutes with 10 men it is Arsenal - I guess against Barca that is a dream.

When it comes down to it Henry missed two gilt edged chances - when the final whistle went did the Captain of my team console his players ?  No he played matey matey with the Barca team - I hope somebody had words for Cesc, Reyes, Flamini, Toure - they are still the future of my club.  The first goal was not offside, we were playing Barca you know they are going to roll around, scrape ankles and look for a competitive edge any way they can - if that is upsetting then the team and management is very sheltered.  I think the reactions from Henry and Wenger at the final whistle were disappointing, I thought Henry a bigger man then that - I am sure some/most of it was down to emotion but I am surprised and disappointed.

Well done Barca - your manager turned the game with two brilliant subs, your strikers finished well.  But Arsenal will never be underestimated in Europe again - with or without Henry.

So today head up - look the Spurs fans in the eye (My misses has been a spurs fan for 20 years - even she wanted Arsenal to win, wasn't to happy that Sol scored but she was bigger then I could ever be in that situation), and be safe in the knowledge that we are years ahead of our North London rival, we have the Dutch master to say goodbye to, The new Stadium to say hello to.  There is sunshine behind todays storms and clouds.  Just remember it hurts because we believed - those that mock that pain must have believed a little bit too.  I will never scrape to the levels seen here, I will always take pleasure in a Spurs defeat (I'm a Gooner thats what we do), but I am safe in the knowledge that I will get more pleasure then them next year.

Well played Arsenal thanks for an adventure I never believed I would have this year.
May we go one better next year.

Great post!
Nice to see a bit of decorum.

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