Inappropriate Jokes and blonde

[Colchester Kev]

whenever flushy phones me or i phone him, I always answer/start the call in the same way. "Hello Poof" he always replies "hello fat b*st*rd"  ...whenever I phone Ariston or he phones me its "hello Baldy" ... "hello Clarence" (or whatever knew insult he has thought up that day)

  When I go to various venues up and down the country I hear people from all walks of life having banter across poker tables... comments ranging from "My god look at that shirt, how can you wear that in public" to "Pink shirt , you look like a poof"  and many many quips and put downs that would lead to a punch up if said to a complete stranger.  However these are NOT said to complete strangers, they are contained among a group of people that are friends and associates, and therein lies the basis of my feelings on this matter.... When I call Flushy a poof, shirt lifter, big girls blouse etc. I am saying it to HIM only. If other people get upset by me calling HIM a poof, then that isnt my problem. My comments are aimed directly at him, no one else.

Maybe I should be the one taking offence at jibes, I call flushy a poof (which he Isnt...allegedly) he calls me a fat b*st*rd (which I am)  so he is DIRECTLY making a derogatory comment about my size ... Do you see where all this ends up ?

sticks and stones may break your bones but names will never hurt you !!

Amen.

[tikay]

As to how blonde resolves this, I still don't know. The Mods, including me, still have to come to a decision.

But whatever decision they come to, I will still do my own thing.

I don't THINK I've ever, in jest or otherwise called someone gay, but I sure never will from here on in. In jest, or otherwise.

I shall continue to berate Couch Kev for having dodgy mince-pies, Iron & the Scottish Department of blonde for being Scots, Dewi & Co for being nanny-goat-ish, Robert for being an Estate Agent, Ariston & Flushy for being hopeless.

And I shall encourage others, by example, to do the same.

But that's not to pre-judge the "official" outcome.  I shall simply do my own thing here, & I am sure most of you, now realising the impact their words can have, will do likewise.

so tikay are you saying that it is worse to call someone gay than insult someone for there race or for there size?
or is it just that it was a blonde who was offended by the gay jibes that took offence?

I am not sure what point you are making there, so I can't really answer it.

It's not a case of "worse" or "better" though. It's the case that, in life, I don't like insulting or offending people. It's as simple as that. I dislike a few people, not many, admittedly, but I don't go round insulting them, I just keep my own counsel.

And blonde is, whether we like it or not, effectively something I started, which, in many ways, reflects Dave & my ideals. And most of the blondes seem to think along the same lines, because that's how life works - like-minded folks tend to gather together.

sorry tikay. the point im trying to make is that you say you will not be refering to anyone as gay in the future but are happy to berate kev iron and the scottish boys for there disabilities and race.

just wondered why u feel comfortable with that and not comfortable with calling someone like flushy who lets be honest looks and moves a bit camp  "gay"

Ahh, I understand now. You have to spell these things out for me, or use shorter words!

I throw jibes at Iron & Kev & the Scots & Welsh, & Estate Agent Robert & Hopelss flushy & Aristion in general because.....

I KNOW they like it really. Same as when Couch calls me "Pops" or Grandad - really, I see it as a term of endearment, & I know they mean no harm. If it really - REALLY - offended others, by race, or disabilty, or hopeless at pokerish, I would cease to poke fun at the Scots & Welsh & Ironside. If I honestly believe ANYONE was offended by it, I would cease immediately.

When I did my first Poker Night Live, there were numerous complaints from the Scots, who thought I was being serious. I apologised on their forum, & we - those who complained, & me - soon became good friends, & I Post there frequently now, & they don't see me as a bad person any more. But I've never once poked fun at the Scots or Welsh on PNL since, fact. I have used a little creativity in my (attempted) humour on PNL, & I get by with it.

 

exactly tikay it all boils down to how sensitive an individual is.

so what im saying is if you feel kev is fat n eats to many pies and you call him tubby why would you consider someone who thinks flushy is camp and acts like a women gay as being offensive?

I don't think it IS offensive - but if I did, I would not say it. By the way, I have never referred to Kev (on the Forum, but I do in private) as fat, because many people (me included) are, & that's a sensitive area for many.

And I really don't think that suggesting Flushy is gay or camp offends a soul - or I did not before this thread. I have never called him that, ever, but now I've seen that it offends some OTHERS, I never will, for sure.

[tikay]

like flushy who lets be honest looks and moves a bit camp

 


Seriously though none of these comments offend me, and like Tikay says they are all good fun, i enjoy it because it means i get to dish some back!

However, it clearly does offend someone on here, that someone is a very clever and senible person, we know he is not overly sensative and is friends with a lot of people on here. He is clearly not a drama queen. It then becomes apparent to me that we should try to cut it out.

I think junglecat is coming up with a list of alternative insults for me....

This is extraordinary. A thread that contains good Posts by both Ariston & Flushy. That's a first.

What is this place coming to?

[Royal Flush]

Kev i agree with you 100% there, the problem is a forum is a place you will be overheard!

[Colchester Kev]

So if i were to call Flushy a big girls blouse, would big girls be offended, we all know that I would really be meaning to call him a poof, but because I didnt actually use that word that would be ok ?

Confused from Colchester

[Nem]

There should be some forum rules/guidelines.

One person thinks it is a hilarious joke, where another thinks the same statement is very dis-tasteful.

[Bongo]

Kev, I think the difference between the 2 is that poof can be used to mean "effeminate" and "homosexual", whereas big girls blouse doesn't have any homosexual connotation to it?

Poof ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pf)
n. Offensive Slang

Used as a disparaging term for an effeminate or homosexual male.

poof

n : offensive terms for an openly homosexual man

(nicked from dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=poof)

[turny]

flushy u knew i was joking and i was hopeing you would pick up on it  

and you reacted in just the way i expected u to fair play!

[nirvana]

Could panth hurry up with the list of approved insults for flushie cause I'm struggling to find ones funny but inoffensive.

Sincerely tho flushie, I for one, have never been in doubt about your sexuality..... not that there's anything wrong with your choice.

Now lets all shake hands and get a sauna !

[Sark79]

I still follow the rules taught to me years ago.  I still walk on the left in corridors.

[tikay]

I still follow the rules taught to me years ago.  I still walk on the left in corridors.

Wow - so do I!

And open doors for Ladies.

And give up my seat on trains & buses to people older than me.

[turny]

And give up my seat on trains & buses to people older than me.


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cant be many left around tikay

[Royal Flush]

as long as you feel comfortable with your decision go with it but remember , once you know it's possible effect it could have on another person you are showing your true personality .

ACES

Exactly the point here i feel, its not the subject of the joke that is offended it is the people "overhearing" it.

P.S. Kev you are a fat bastard!

[tikay]

And give up my seat on trains & buses to people older than me.

cant be many left around tikay
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It's worse than that. An elderly Lady got up & offered me HER seat last week!

[Colchester Kev]

Kev, I think the difference between the 2 is that poof can be used to mean "effeminate" and "homosexual", whereas big girls blouse doesn't have any homosexual connotation to it?

Poof ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pf)
n. Offensive Slang

Used as a disparaging term for an effeminate or homosexual male.

poof

n : offensive terms for an openly homosexual man

(nicked from dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=poof)

Oh please ... so its just the word poof thats offensive then, big girls blouse(although it means exactly the same) is acceptable ?

This is where the politically correct brigades case falls apart, simply by substituting one word for another you get the same result, then they want to ban that word... then they use another word and that gets banned ..and so on and so on and so on ...

At school we used to have Black boards (called this because they were black... amazingly enough) then they were not allowed to be called that, so they renamed them Chalk boards....  Imagine my amazement when talking to my Kids and going to school open evenings etc. that they now have White boards !!!  Why is Black board offensive to Black people, and why is it ok to call them White boards .... isnt that offensive to white people ?

Political correctness...my arse.