Launch of the Amateur Poker Association & Tour (APAT)

[Wardonkey]

Ok heres a positive, I'm positive it's going to be great.

Throughtout my life, when conducting business deals or making agreements with my friends, I didn't ask or need to see every little detail in writing, I didn't look for hidden agendas. I trusted them.

Shakespeare said "He that filches from me my good name Robs me of that which not enriches him, but makes me poor indeed"

I know Tony very well, and ol Shakey might have written that with him in mind. He would never knowingly be involved in something that was detrimental to anyone. If he says it's on the level, thats good enough for me.

 

[Wardonkey]

Des,

any chance you might consider setting up a "unrecognised person who makes money from poker" tour? I'd love to play in that =)

We can play heads up for a tenner at my house if you wish. We'll get Tikay round to mix the drinks...

[Dewi_cool]

I am going to have my pennyworth on this, be amazed everyone I don't do serious posts and this will be the first and last that I write ( i do serious in work all day)

1) For £10 what do we have to lose?

2) Someone has put a lot of thought in to this and has come up with a cracking business plan, I say business , because thats what it is, why worry if it's profit making if I / we get added value, and someone to represent the small stakes player, Being a pragmatist I love stuff like this and would run with this any day.

3) The professional issue can be overcome as the ' so called' professional players who would want to play in this type buy in are not true professionals IMHO, so Byron, War and Red no probs!!

4) I have joined and expressed an interest in playing the first comp, a Welshman winning an English tourney, now that would be something to complain about  


5) Oh Booder  

[bigalhx1]

i have made a member did not get any id from apat or email comfiming i have made a member just the paypal transaction id is this right ?. and i am holliday when you reg for the tournement will have to sneek out find a internet cafe to reg for the tournement promised the girlfriend no poker when we or on holls (of the card type) before you all start

[booder]

a Welshman winning any English tourney,

make a sentence.................................freezes over  hell  when

[Jim-D]

1) For £10 what do we have to lose?

2) Someone has put a lot of thought in to this and has come up with a cracking business plan, I say business , because thats what it is, why worry if it's profit making if I / we get added value, and someone to represent the small stakes player, Being a pragmatist I love stuff like this and would run with this any day.

Totally agree!!!

I cant wait to get my teeth into this, And I wish the organisers all the very best in this venture and you have my whole hearted support.

[Ironside]

Excellent idea and all the best with it.

I joined using the pokerplayer promo code and my poker stars id for a fiver. The Paypal reciept says 'Mem002'. Others I know have joined and are a 'Mem001'. Whats the difference? Apologies if you've already answered this!

Cheers,

Rich

mem001 full price membership
mem002 pokerplayer mag code membeship
mem003 online membership online

[richmagpies]

Excellent idea and all the best with it.

I joined using the pokerplayer promo code and my poker stars id for a fiver. The Paypal reciept says 'Mem002'. Others I know have joined and are a 'Mem001'. Whats the difference? Apologies if you've already answered this!

Cheers,

Rich

mem001 full price membership
mem002 pokerplayer mag code membeship
mem003 online membership online

Thanks for clearing that up! Appreciated.

[TightEnd]

Thank you Ironside


Everyone, the feedback has been sensational whether good or questioning. I love all of it. Thank you. Gives us every opportunity to look at improvements and new ideas.

We'll go away and consider everything and if there are changes to be made we'll change it and let you know.

For example to answer bigal who is on holiday when sign up occurs, I am unsure personally of the wisdom of a sign up frenzy at midnight on 31-08-06 for 120 or so seats. I am going to look at other options. Again we will let you know

[tikay]

But meantime, please give some thought to the Positives, the last few hours seems to have been all negatives

the positives are apparent, its the negatives that need(ed) pointing out/clarification

You should be elated you dont just have a site full of yes-men . I expect all the people that are eligible to play are happy to be able to ask questions/bring up issues without it being considered "negative". Both sides will be the stronger for it once all the concerns/Q's have been ironed out.



Des,

any chance you might consider setting up a "unrecognised person who makes money from poker" tour? I'd love to play in that =)

Thanks Jay, & I will reply to your very kind & thoughtful PM shortly, you'll understand that today has been a little hectic.

I am delighted - absolutely - that the blondes know me well enough to speak their minds, & what is success if we don't endure a little grief along the way?

By "negatives" (in the last few hours) I meant that there seemed to be some sort of temporary fixation with profit making, which was spreading like a grass fire, and even more alarmingly, a suggestion we had "hidden" that aspect.

And whilst that was going down, I'm thinking, "is it me out of step, or the others?", because even at my ripe old age, I see this as something a bit special, but I guess it's human nature to look at the downs, rather than the ups, as it were. (The "pencil sketch" thing).

Oddly, it seems to have turned round again the last hour or so. Like the tide, it ebbs & flows!

[NoflopsHomer]

Does everyone else have to bow now that you're a director?


On a serious note, I must add, I'm really looking forward to this, and I know a few creases will have to be ironed out, but I do hope you guys can do this well.

 

[totalise]

Tikay,

no worries

Do you see where the profit questions were coming from? The general assumption is that if an organisation is set-up with the intention of being a players organisation, its not going to be one that is designed to make a profit (ala the World Poker Organisation) for the organisers

When it came to light that it WILL be generating a profit for the organisers, thats where the whole questions I believe stemmed from......it was in no way to intimate there was a usurious side to the whole scheme (or at least, I am 99% confident of that)

The company makes money, most people (!!!) get something out of it, now everything is out in the open its easy to see what a great venture it is for all concerned. A win-win

I pretty much said all I can think of, and I managed to bump up my post count some, so its a success on all counts

[Bongo]

I think it's in a lot of people's nature to question.

In many respects it also seems a bit too good to be true:

Better comps
free food
added value
etc

and the cost to us? £10 a year (assuming you normally pay rake).

If a man in the street said he could do all that for a £10er you'd think he was mad!

The only catch seems to be that the events maybe over subscribed - some people may join ad never get to get in one.

As the association grows this could be a real issue.

I'm sure the assembled brains can sort it out though

[TightEnd]

The only catch seems to be that the events maybe over subscribed - some people may join ad never get to get in one.

As the association grows this could be a real issue.

I'm sure the assembled brains can sort it out though

Give me a UK venue that can hold several hundred please!

This assembled brain is struggling with that!

[tikay]

Does everyone else have to bow now that you're a director?


On a serious note, I must add, I'm really looking forward to this, and I know a few creases will have to be ironed out, but I do hope you guys can do this well.

 

Now look what you've done - called me a Director, after I've just spent x hours telling everybody I am not!

Buy you may continue to bow.

Tony Kendall,
Chairman, APAT