What's justice?

[Colchester Kev]

 

I'm talking about building a raft out of Argos catalogues!!! C'mon pleeease, how can that be taken seriously?

Now he tells me !!!   I was just on the final binding, and preparing a launch date...

My back is killing me from carrying all those catalogues home and now you say you were joking ..... Sheeesh !

[TightEnd]

only because your first couple of options sound quite nasty and believable.

I doubt whether many people got as far as the 4th before posting!

Anyway, it turned into a decent debate, so no worries

[mex]

I think this thread got taken so seriously because as i read it Reddog actually reresents the group Chavvy originally came from.
Now i know the definition has changed, but for Red (red i am making a huge assumption here you are of  true Romany decent.) this is close to home. Red would have in fact been a Chavvy ( Romany child? ), I believe in Chatham, shop keepers use to throw Chavvy out of the shop for fear they had been sent to steal whilst under convictable age.

 That said i don't think the original post was intented to pick on individual or groups per say but as a piece of comedy, good comedy often comes at the expense of others, How many black comedians have based a career on taking the mickey out of racial differences?

As a side point I was a skater (skate board) in my teen years, and it was amazing the prejudice you'd get, we were blamed for graffitti, people always thought we had a ready supply of drugs,and we shop lifted, the fact we were the most creative and artistic bunch,(ever read a skaters grip tape?). We were the chav's of our generation.

Now every one assumes im a made casino hungry gambler because I've spent more than a month playing poker.
 
As i see it we are all growing older on here and seem to be getting further from youth culture, (or Yoot as its now spelt)
so its easy to group the young and write em off.

BTW what do you call a CHav in a Box

[TheGreenOne]

  what do you call a chav in a box?

[Royal Flush]

Innit?

[Sark79]

I thought it was a joke post and it had no real nastiness about it.  I am sure no real harm has been done 

[TheGreenOne]

   We're all waiting eagerly for the punchline mex... although i suspect Flushy has got it right

[Claw75]

I guess, as with any type of humour, there is a fine line to tread.  Personally, leaving the 'chav' stuff behind for a minute, I can't find humour in suggestions of violent actions to be taken against others.  Whilst some say it should have been obvious that the original post was intended as a joke, there are plenty of people around in this country who not only condone vigilante action against certain members of society, but who go ahead and carry it out.  Tony Martin springs to mind.  I don't want to start off a debate about his case, but I remember being genuinely shocked at the level of public support he apparently had. 

[SupaMonkey]

So when do you think Argos will start selling, MaccyDs, cider and 1990 Vauxhall Novas then. 

[RED-DOG]

I think this thread got taken so seriously because as i read it Reddog actually reresents the group Chavvy originally came from.
Now i know the definition has changed, but for Red (red i am making a huge assumption here you are of  true Romany decent.) this is close to home. Red would have in fact been a Chavvy ( Romany child? ), I believe in Chatham, shop keepers use to throw Chavvy out of the shop for fear they had been sent to steal whilst under convictable age.

 That said i don't think the original post was intented to pick on individual or groups per say but as a piece of comedy, good comedy often comes at the expense of others, How many black comedians have based a career on taking the mickey out of racial differences?

As a side point I was a skater (skate board) in my teen years, and it was amazing the prejudice you'd get, we were blamed for graffitti, people always thought we had a ready supply of drugs,and we shop lifted, the fact we were the most creative and artistic bunch,(ever read a skaters grip tape?). We were the chav's of our generation.

Now every one assumes im a made casino hungry gambler because I've spent more than a month playing poker.
 
As i see it we are all growing older on here and seem to be getting further from youth culture, (or Yoot as its now spelt)
so its easy to group the young and write em off.

BTW what do you call a CHav in a Box

Actually, I didn't pick up, or object to the thread because of the Chav link to the Romany. In fact it didn't even occur to me for a while, so many Romany words have been assimilated into everyday use.

I objected to the idea of a thread dedicated to attacking one particular group because of how society perceives them. I know it was only posted in fun, but as with all these things, it had the potential to escalate and the capacity to brand 'some' innocent people with the traits of others, and some people would make that assumption just by looking. based on what a person wore or how he talked.

I only intended to make a passing comment, but, as these things do, it escalated in to a full scale debate.

I am not really a kill joy, or a drum banger. and to my shame, I love black humour and un-pc jokes, but I have spent a lifetime on the other side o the fence, as part of a persecuted ethnic minority. I suppose I can be a little over sensitive sometime.

I was very pleased with the way the debate was conducted though, and I am proud that we have so many members with 'receive' as well a 'transmit' buttons.

[ericstoner]

When I was young.......a long time ago. A Chav was a  slang name for a child among the few  people I knew, of Romany descent.

[BrumBilly]

The Tony Martin case is to my mind an example of a bankrupt justice system which on a daily basis makes it all to easy for men to find themselves in impossible situations.

He had and still has my full support. Just sorry he ended up going to prison.