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« on: September 20, 2006, 09:51:20 PM »

Early in a $30 SNG, I have 1000 chips and i'm in the BB...
Blinds are 15/30
Folded round to the SB who makes it 90 to go...
I have a pair of 2's off suit...i think he might be stealing so raise to 240...
SB re-raises to 390... i have one more crack and re-re-reraise to 720...

SB Moves all in... I realise that i am 50/50 at best...

Can I fold?
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2006, 09:52:18 PM »

yes, no point putting your tournament life on the line as a 50/50 shot. You have such a skill advantage over the field that you should wait for better spots.

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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2006, 10:00:20 PM »

yes, no point putting your tournament life on the line as a 50/50 shot. You have such a skill advantage over the field that you should wait for better spots.




 


I have a pair of 2's off suit...


Love it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2006, 10:21:16 PM »

I have a pair of 2's off suit...

Love it.

Of course, if they had been suited then the mathematically optimal +EV play would be to move all-in because of the equity overlay semi-bluff.
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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2006, 10:22:49 PM »

I have a pair of 2's off suit...

Love it.

Of course, if they had been suited then the mathematically optimal +EV play would be to move all-in because of the equity overlay semi-bluff.

moving in would be sub-optimal because your profit with suited deuces comes from people calling, not folding.. its a bad idea to semi-bluff with lock hands.
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2006, 12:56:43 PM »

This is a newbie guys......
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2006, 01:03:07 PM »

This is a newbie guys......


exactly, that is why we go out of our way to impart such in depth advice/analysis. Where else do you get optimum game theoretical min-max strategic shell game theory free of charge
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2006, 01:04:40 PM »

Early in a $30 SNG, I have 1000 chips and i'm in the BB...
Blinds are 15/30
Folded round to the SB who makes it 90 to go...
I have a pair of 2's off suit...i think he might be stealing so raise to 240...
SB re-raises to 390... i have one more crack and re-re-reraise to 720...

SB Moves all in... I realise that i am 50/50 at best...

Can I fold?



seriously, by all means have one attempt at reraising to win the pot pre flop but once he's shown you he's not stealing then give it up and move on.

by the time he moves all in you can't fold...you've stuck the vast majority of your chips in anyway.
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2006, 01:32:35 PM »



You don't provide any information about your SB, what kind of player s/he is/ what is her/his stack,  What kind of image you have at the table.  What were the previous actions, what range of hands SB is likely to play.  I am not good with HU, but if your opponent raised you with Ak/Aq/Aj/Kq/and so on you are slight favourite and against big pairs you are a big underdog.
I think your third re-raise was a mistake as the SB indicated that he has a some sort of hand.

If I was in your situtation I would flat call his initial raise and play the SB post-flop.  with small pp you want to see the flop cheaply and then either hit your set or steal the pot if you believe that the flop did not help the inital raiser.

It is a shallow stack STT so you can't throw your chips away, and If you are re-raising your opponents with your stack you have to be prepared to push all in so therefore you have to have a better hand then your opponent and 22 is not a re-raising hand per se.
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2006, 04:47:53 PM »

i think you have made an excellent play and have him just where you want him.   push the rest of the chips in the middle and enjoy the race!
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2006, 05:27:41 PM »

I'd just call and pass to a flop bet unless you hit a set. It's not very exciting put at this stage in an STT he almost certainly has something to raise out of the small blind the 45 chips in the middle are not worth the risk/reward for a an outright steal. You may have the best hand but it's still just 50/50 if you see all 5 cards. You could also easily be a massive underdog.
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2006, 09:48:56 AM »

you have to gamble in these sort of tournaments if you want to win.
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2006, 10:35:04 AM »

yes, no point putting your tournament life on the line as a 50/50 shot. You have such a skill advantage over the field that you should wait for better spots.




 


I have a pair of 2's off suit...


Love it.

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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2006, 11:20:26 AM »

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you have to gamble in these sort of tournaments if you want to win.


What is your definition of gamble?

Any two at any time?



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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2006, 08:48:37 PM »

Early in a $30 SNG, I have 1000 chips and i'm in the BB...
Blinds are 15/30
Folded round to the SB who makes it 90 to go...
I have a pair of 2's off suit...i think he might be stealing so raise to 240...
SB re-raises to 390... i have one more crack and re-re-reraise to 720...

SB Moves all in... I realise that i am 50/50 at best...

Can I fold?

Yo only have $280 chips left, so u may want to call after investing so much!
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