Discuss - Use of Poker Tracker cheating or not ??

[M3boy]

Obviously I am talking cash games.

I actually think yes it is, but I use it because I feel that if you dont, you are at a MAJOR disadvantage over others who do.

In a short space of time, I have almost 10,000 hands on most people that play $1 $2 on a particular site - this has won (and saved) me plenty of $$$'s

Discuss.

[ACE2M]

I thought about this earlier

How long till a site brings out the ability to change your table name everytime you log in?

[M3boy]

I believe Party Poker allow you to change your user name every month??

[AndrewT]

I think using it for your own games is fine - it's akin to remembering hands and making notes that you might make at a live game (albeit in a much more efficient and structured manner).

However, what has become known as datamining (opening up lots of tables and letting your machine accumulate hands in games in which you're not playing) I think crosses the line, and I won't play cash games at a site that allows it.

[TightEnd]

, and I won't play cash games at a site that allows it.

which sites allow it. I too think it is dubious

[thetank]

If Pokertracker is cheating, how do you feel about the ethics of making notes and compiling statistics with a pen and paper as you play online?

 I use it because I feel that if you dont, you are at a MAJOR disadvantage over others who do.

Same reason I take anabolic steroids.


Datamining is an abuse, but the sites can easily stop it (and many did) by not writing hand historys of observed tables to your hard drive.

[totalise]

I dont use it when I'm playing anymore, just use it for self analysis.

[dik9]

Any tool that gives you an advantage over someone else who hasn't got the tool is cheating in my book

The essence of poker, is everyone starts off as equals.

[boldie]

I believe Party Poker allow you to change your user name every month??

completely against that to to be honest.

[ACE2M]

I believe Party Poker allow you to change your user name every month??

completely against that to to be honest.

Why?

[Royal Flush]

Any tool that gives you an advantage over someone else who hasn't got the tool is cheating in my book

The essence of poker, is everyone starts off as equals.

Poker books? Experience?

[dik9]

Any tool that gives you an advantage over someone else who hasn't got the tool is cheating in my book

The essence of poker, is everyone starts off as equals.

Poker books? Experience?

Completely different Mr Dempsey

[boldie]

I believe Party Poker allow you to change your user name every month??

completely against that to to be honest.

Why?

Because it is the only way people get to know you online.  This admittedly might put you at a disadvantage BUT I feel that, as you can't walk into the same casino day in day out but play as someone else, this actually is just not right.

I always play under the same username..everywebsite I play at it is boldedge, never different and it will never change. This gives people the chance to know me (and quite a few at bet365 do) and I also don't mind giving someone who spent hours analysing my play the idea that he's figured me out.
I don't need to change my name to keep ahead, all I need to do is change the way I play. That's the way it works in a casino/pokerroom and that's the way it should work online IMO.

I have spent some time with people in HU games and I have notes on all those people, if they were to change their names my notes become useless. Now admittedly they would become useless aswell if those people change their style of play, but changing the style of play is something I can respect as it shows people growing as a poker player, changing the name takes no skill and is only available to give lazy people an edge.

*this admittedly is not the most coherent post I have ever posted on here (or even worse, it might well be) but that's just the way I feel.

[thetank]

Any tool that gives you an advantage over someone else who hasn't got the tool is cheating in my book

The essence of poker, is everyone starts off as equals.

So are you against the use of pen and paper beside the computer?

[thetank]

Any tool that gives you an advantage over someone else who hasn't got the tool is cheating in my book

The essence of poker, is everyone starts off as equals.

Poker books? Experience?

Completely different Mr Dempsey

Not really different at all, according to your broad definition that you layed out.