Tarot, Tea-Leaves & Crystal Ball

[thetank]

What of the folk who have been torn, beaten down and downtrodden in the past. There self esteem is such that they believe they will never get a man, that they don't deserve one. May as well spend every Friday night with your cats, and every Saturday with Ant and Dec. Going out will just be super scary.

The wizened Tarotist tells them they're going to meet a fella (probably tall, dark and maybe handsome too.)

All of a sudden she is accepting offers to go out on the town rather than make up excuses why she can't. She starts dolling herself up a bit. After all, when fate comes a-knocking, she better be ready.

Lo and behold, she gets someone willing to pump her who doesnae run off and even buys her some of that Jade's perfume on her birthday. She get's knocked up and they live happily ever after.


These people do good work.
Twenty-five knicker? Bargain, 'specially if they're missing 'Stenders.

[byronkincaid]

serious question.

Has anyone ever been hynotised?


tell me about it

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hypnotherapy-Explained-Heard-Every-Word/dp/0951087517/sr=1-5/qid=1163069500/ref=sr_1_5/026-6235438-6886819?ie=UTF8&s=books

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-Hypnosis-David-Lesser/dp/0951087525/sr=1-4/qid=1163069500/ref=sr_1_4/026-6235438-6886819?ie=UTF8&s=books

[TightEnd]

LOL thanks

I only ask because someone tried with me once. I was young and a git and volunteered to go up on a stage with about 20 others to be part of the hypnotists stage show

At first I thought I would go along with it, as I wasn't being hypnotised at all.

Then he gets us all to join hands and tells us in "look into my eyes, not around the eyes" style to do the opposite of what he says, as a group

Unfortunately after a few minutes I forgot, and when they all sat down (told to stand up) I stood up, breaking the chain and causing several others next to me to crash into chairs and rather spoil the stage effect.

According to those watching, it was a classic moment..both the look on my face and the look on the hypnotists.

[Graham C]

My Father-in-Law had one of his friends go up on stage in one of these shows and he claims it's real.  The guy was doing all sorts of wierd stuff (chicken dances etc) and wouldn't usually do that. He (like most people) volunteered to go up because he was a non believer.  After he didn't remember a thing and when people told him, still didn't believe them.  When someone showed him the film, he was gobsmacked.

Also, my Dad went to see one for giving up smoking and to improve memory.  The smoking didn't work, probably because the first thing he did when he left was spark up but the memory thing was amazing.  He told me about it the next morning and could remember a list of about 50 things via an elaborate story - the classic describe your way to work in the morning and have key items related to the things you want to remember.  That was impressive.  He couldn't usually remember 10 things,let alone what he came out with the next morning  

I do think there is something in reprogramming the mind.

[tantrum]

the memory excericises and how to improve your memory method is definitely working.
Sport psychology is another good discipline in order to explore how to be motivated and goal orientated.  Self-hypnosis is used by many top sportsmen and has been proven as a good way to stay focused for a long periods of time. 

All those things are much better to spend money on, rather then on palm and tarrot reading....

[Graham C]

Also being used in poker these days (the psychology stuff and hypnosis)

[Alex B]

I have read quite a lot about cold reading (and NLP etc) and have been trying to do it myself. It is interesting to watch Colin Fry do it on FTN in the evenings (talking to dead people). For a pre recorded show they usually seem to still edit in plenty of swings-and-misses.

There are a few key techniques that are often used by cold readers, even when they aren't in a position to 'read' the person. (e.g. horoscopes, by telephone etc)

For example, they often use items or devices that transfer the responsibility of the predictions onto something random in order to prevent it being too personal for the reader and make it seem less like they are coming up with whims. (e.g. palm, tea leaves, tarot cards, etc)

"Ok here goes...

I chose 10 tarot cards and she said "Hmm, interesting" then went to turn the tv off so she could concentrate."

A lot of the language patterns they use are of the form "there has been an issue which you know about, but it is over or improving now". They use particular words for which I have forgotten the term, but they mean nothing without context and require the listener to add the context, this means they are great in hypnotherapy as they are always congruent, but also means thy can be manipulated in cold reading. "Interference" is a good example. Ending phrases on positive notes prevents listeners wanting to dispute them.

"First she mentioned the interference I'd had in my life recently. She said although it's been painful it's over now. She said as long as I perservere with what I want everything will be ok."

Cold readers then often talk about issues that are common to everybody: Love, health and money. This is an area where being face to face will allow them to get a stronger reading and jewellery, clothing etc add clues to the equation.

"I am naive with love, I fall too 'head over heels' and she said I'll end up in the mental hospital if I carry on like that (which I agree with)."

Note that while doing this they will still use the types of words I described above. For example, the word "problems" can refer to love, health, or money, and noboday ever has zero problems:

"My family has had lots of problems but thats all sorted now too (that was to do with the recent problems with my dad and his wife all clearing up)."

In personality reading, complements work best. While I have been practising this the easiest things to get good responses to are "people don't realise your full potential", "on some level you realise if you were'nt so modest and concerned for others you could progress much faster", "why did you start learning an instrument or art skill you havent realised to your full potential"

"I have a good brain but I'm not using it (no job and not in education). I am a good communicator and I can build upon this by getting a job where I'm not in the background. She suggested a front-desk or similar. Even suggested taking up French or Spanish (but I'm no good at langauges)."

Anything you would like to cold read that refers to the future can obviously be anything you want to say, as it hasn't yet happened, but using the language patterns described above will make it more likely to come 'true'

"She asked me to make one wish on the Crystal Ball which I did and she said it'll come true as long as I get out of my depression and fight for what I want.

Don't marry too young. I am the sort of person that wants a life partner, not lots of on-off boyriends. (True).

I am very fertile, and will probably have my first child when I am 26."

Unfortunately, once cold readers start talking about dead people, they get into an emotional freeroll of success because anything they say is so welcome. They often guess that an older person has passed, and the subject says somethign like "yes it was my nan, is she here??" passing over all the 'read' information voluntarily.

"She then asked about my Nan, and a lot was said about her, stuff I don't really want to go in to but as I've mentioned before, she was my closest relative before she died.

She also mentioned that as well as being a good communicator, I am good with figures and money, so should maybe look for a job to do with that."

Throught a long reading, cold readers will be throwing out names and dates all the time, remembering half hits and quickly dismissing complete misses. It is very likely that some information could be picked up earlier, then presented much later in the session as a completely unknowable but accurate fact.

"She somehow knew that Leon and I met when we were 14 and 16, she said he is a good man that will give me no grief, that I can forgive him once but not more. She said to stay away from the older guy with the baggage - he isn't good for me."

Certain things are true about people that go to see psychics, for example, they are very recepetive to the complementary idea that they or their families could have pyschic abilities or other spiritual qualities themselves.

"When I asked about my children she said I would definitely have kids, she said theres at least 1 boy she can see and that one of my kids will be very wise, as if they have lived before. Perhaps even psychic. She went quiet for a bit because she turned over the Science card which meant that even though I am fertile I might have trouble concieving because of my period problems (True) but in the end I won't have any grief over my kids... so to sum up, I might need help with concieving, but hopefully I won't lose any children. She also said she hopes I'm not pregnant now because I'm not ready to be a mother."

Other random things were:

- I like blowing things (Dirty cow!)
- My mums shoulder could cause problems
- I should wear brighter colours
- She could sense a doll in a pink dress but said this might be my daughter.

It was a good experience, and for £25 it didn't break the bank. The scared me when she said she could see my Nan and she could tell I was her favourite and my Nan was upset with me because I kept crying into my pillow. Also when she managed to tell me that I met Leon when I was 14 and he was 16... that was strange, I was like "How on earth did you know that?" I didn't give off any indication that we'd been together long or that we'd met when very young, she didn't even know his age.

It was a good experience and I would consider going again.

Don't worry Thomas, it wasn't dangerous!

and Rookie, I believe in ghosts too. If I go into those experiences I will be going on forever!


- I should take up a course
- Cut down on gluten"

[TightEnd]

What a good post!

[booder]

I am a good communicator and I can build upon this by getting a job where I'm not in the background. She suggested a front-desk or similar.

would you like fries with that ?

[Colchester Kev]

SHIP IT !!!!

[TightEnd]

Judge rules?

It's a goal

[Rod Paradise]

"She somehow knew that Leon and I met when we were 14 and 16, she said he is a good man that will give me no grief, that I can forgive him once but not more. She said to stay away from the older guy with the baggage - he isn't good for me."

She's met Mikky.

[Royal Flush]

Judge rules?

It's a goal

No way!

Open minded sceptic.

[TightEnd]

Judge rules?

It's a goal

No way!

Open minded sceptic.

goal!!

[Colchester Kev]

"She somehow knew that Leon and I met when we were 14 and 16, she said he is a good man that will give me no grief, that I can forgive him once but not more. She said to stay away from the older guy with the baggage - he isn't good for me."

She's met Mikky.

Gaol !!!