No Hello, just P4C.

[North Angel]

Ok - I have a question - this link http://www.lifecycle-fundraising.org/display.php?op=showgallery&page=16 takes me to a project at the Bluebell nursery school which looks exactly like (in fact the pictures are the same) as the ironside project on Game for lifes web site.

What contribution has GFL made to this project - my assumption was it had paid for this to be rebuilt etc but Lifecycle (whose name is on the wall in one of the pictures on the G4L website) states "As with all the nurseries built from the 2005 Ball, funds have been put aside for all operating costs (including teachers' remuneration) for one calendar year."

It would appear that this charity has built the nursery and will be paying for ongoing costs. 

So my questions are:

1. Why have the GFL pictures have a different name above the door (albeit a temporary board)

2. What has GFL donated to this cause?

Thanks

Tracey

http://www.shivacharity.net/ << If you look at this link the guy who actually runs the charity you will see in total 21 different schools with Ironsides and Bluebird nursery.  Bluebird Nursery School is the first of Lifecycle's sponsorships, and replaces a Pre-school in Thirikkovil. Ironside's Game For Life Nursery School is situated just south of Batticaloa, in the middle of a Tamil community.
http://www.game4life.org/index.php?page=srilankaschools

So I am not quite sure what you are implying.


The total cost for this was £2500 and £2500 for another school which is being built at the moment

[booder]

Ironside has a school named after him ?   wow  Respect to the Scottish chappy

[North Angel]

Thankyou for that, the Motherwell expenses look to be not as bad as I feared.

The expenses add up to just over £4.1k there, including the £1.5k lost to the Hotel and the £0.9k in Cardiff.

Earlier, we were told the total expenses for the year had been £20k.

With the £8k wages, and £4.1k accounted for here, a remaining question is what was the other £7.9k spent on.

(Someone want to check my maths)

Tank,

Andy has not given out any figures for this year, so not quite sure where you have got that figure from, it was said by Tikay that it was an estimated total for 2006 but as for the exact figures I do not personally have access to those I'm afraid.

I am more to do with the running of P4C and not G4L.

Ang

[Dingdell]

Ok - I have a question - this link http://www.lifecycle-fundraising.org/display.php?op=showgallery&page=16 takes me to a project at the Bluebell nursery school which looks exactly like (in fact the pictures are the same) as the ironside project on Game for lifes web site.

What contribution has GFL made to this project - my assumption was it had paid for this to be rebuilt etc but Lifecycle (whose name is on the wall in one of the pictures on the G4L website) states "As with all the nurseries built from the 2005 Ball, funds have been put aside for all operating costs (including teachers' remuneration) for one calendar year."

It would appear that this charity has built the nursery and will be paying for ongoing costs. 

So my questions are:

1. Why have the GFL pictures have a different name above the door (albeit a temporary board)

2. What has GFL donated to this cause?

Thanks

Tracey

http://www.shivacharity.net/ << If you look at this link the guy who actually runs the charity you will see in total 21 different schools with Ironsides and Bluebird nursery.  Bluebird Nursery School is the first of Lifecycle's sponsorships, and replaces a Pre-school in Thirikkovil. Ironside's Game For Life Nursery School is situated just south of Batticaloa, in the middle of a Tamil community.
http://www.game4life.org/index.php?page=srilankaschools

So I am not quite sure what you are implying.


The total cost for this was £2500 and £2500 for another school which is being built at the moment

I'm asking why it looks as if both of these schools appear to be the same.

On the G4L page with photos you can clearly see the name of the Lifecycle charity to the right of the door
So I'm asking what involvement G4L had with the project as it would appear from G4L photos that the project involved the other charity as well.

If would appear that you are telling me that the Lifecycle charity don't have anything to do with your project - so why do the photos that are on the G4L web site suggest that they do?

I then go on to the charity web site pictured in your photos and they have details of the project suggesting they have funded it.

I'm asking them the same questions, I'm not saying that G4L is at fault here, it's a genuine question as both charities seem to be taking responsibility for this project.

What does the £2500 do - does that cover the building of the school in its entirety?

Thanks

Tracey

[thetank]

Tank,

Andy has not given out any figures for this year, so not quite sure where you have got that figure from, it was said by Tikay that it was an estimated total for 2006 but as for the exact figures I do not personally have access to those I'm afraid.

I am more to do with the running of P4C and not G4L.

Ang

My mistake then

[North Angel]

Ok - I have a question - this link http://www.lifecycle-fundraising.org/display.php?op=showgallery&page=16 takes me to a project at the Bluebell nursery school which looks exactly like (in fact the pictures are the same) as the ironside project on Game for lifes web site.

What contribution has GFL made to this project - my assumption was it had paid for this to be rebuilt etc but Lifecycle (whose name is on the wall in one of the pictures on the G4L website) states "As with all the nurseries built from the 2005 Ball, funds have been put aside for all operating costs (including teachers' remuneration) for one calendar year."

It would appear that this charity has built the nursery and will be paying for ongoing costs. 

So my questions are:

1. Why have the GFL pictures have a different name above the door (albeit a temporary board)

2. What has GFL donated to this cause?

Thanks

Tracey

http://www.shivacharity.net/ << If you look at this link the guy who actually runs the charity you will see in total 21 different schools with Ironsides and Bluebird nursery.  Bluebird Nursery School is the first of Lifecycle's sponsorships, and replaces a Pre-school in Thirikkovil. Ironside's Game For Life Nursery School is situated just south of Batticaloa, in the middle of a Tamil community.
http://www.game4life.org/index.php?page=srilankaschools

So I am not quite sure what you are implying.


The total cost for this was £2500 and £2500 for another school which is being built at the moment

I'm asking why it looks as if both of these schools appear to be the same.

On the G4L page with photos you can clearly see the name of the Lifecycle charity to the right of the door
So I'm asking what involvement G4L had with the project as it would appear from G4L photos that the project involved the other charity as well.

If would appear that you are telling me that the Lifecycle charity don't have anything to do with your project - so why do the photos that are on the G4L web site suggest that they do?

I then go on to the charity web site pictured in your photos and they have details of the project suggesting they have funded it.

I'm asking them the same questions, I'm not saying that G4L is at fault here, it's a genuine question as both charities seem to be taking responsibility for this project.

What does the £2500 do - does that cover the building of the school in its entirety?

Thanks

Tracey

What does the £2500 do - does that cover the building of the school in its entirety? yes it does.

I believe Lifecycle are a contributor and supporter of the Shiva charity, what form this supports takes I do not know, but I am prepared to make enquiries with Shiva, unless of course you wish to do so yourself.
Most if not all of the photographs of Shiva projects I have seen carry Lifecycle plaques.

Ang

[tikay]

Thankyou for that, the Motherwell expenses look to be not as bad as I feared.

The expenses add up to just over £4.1k there, including the £1.5k lost to the Hotel and the £0.9k in Cardiff.

Earlier, we were told the total expenses for the year had been £20k.

With the £8k wages, and £4.1k accounted for here, a remaining question is what was the other £7.9k spent on.

(Someone want to check my maths)

Tank,

Andy has not given out any figures for this year, so not quite sure where you have got that figure from, it was said by Tikay that it was an estimated total for 2006 but as for the exact figures I do not personally have access to those I'm afraid.

I am more to do with the running of P4C and not G4L.

Ang

Thank you Ang, & the mood on this thread is so much better now we have some info from "source", thank you.

I must say, I'm a little confused when you say you are more involved in P4C than G4L - surely, in practical terms, they are the same thing? Were the Heads Up things (ICHUC?) G4L rather than P4C?  I'm a bit bamboozled by what difference that makes. To "us", P4C & G4L are one & the same, & any suggested difference only muddies the water.

I shall be making two important (imo) Posts on this thread today, both intended to be construtive - and then I'm gonna consult with my fellow Mods & suggest to them that the thread be locked on Christmas Day & Boxing Day, & re-opened on 27th December. That will allow for some festrive cheer to take effect without "bad blood", & hopefully things will have calmed down by then.

I must say, FACTS are THE most important thing - it's good to talk, & Ang's appearance on this thread has worked wonders already.

[tikay]

Thankyou for that, the Motherwell expenses look to be not as bad as I feared.

The expenses add up to just over £4.1k there, including the £1.5k lost to the Hotel and the £0.9k in Cardiff.

Earlier, we were told the total expenses for the year had been £20k.

With the £8k wages, and £4.1k accounted for here, a remaining question is what was the other £7.9k spent on.

(Someone want to check my maths)

Tank,

Andy has not given out any figures for this year, so not quite sure where you have got that figure from, it was said by Tikay that it was an estimated total for 2006 but as for the exact figures I do not personally have access to those I'm afraid.

I am more to do with the running of P4C and not G4L.

Ang

Yes, the figure of 30% for 2006 came from Andy & Tony. They suggested the % would "not be better" than 2005, & I'm sure they will confirm that.

I note Andy has not Posted today, as he suggested he might, can we assume you are responding on his behalf?

[North Angel]

Thankyou for that, the Motherwell expenses look to be not as bad as I feared.

The expenses add up to just over £4.1k there, including the £1.5k lost to the Hotel and the £0.9k in Cardiff.

Earlier, we were told the total expenses for the year had been £20k.

With the £8k wages, and £4.1k accounted for here, a remaining question is what was the other £7.9k spent on.

(Someone want to check my maths)

Tank,

Andy has not given out any figures for this year, so not quite sure where you have got that figure from, it was said by Tikay that it was an estimated total for 2006 but as for the exact figures I do not personally have access to those I'm afraid.

I am more to do with the running of P4C and not G4L.

Ang

Thank you Ang, & the mood on this thread is so much better now we have some info from "source", thank you.

I must say, I'm a little confused when you say you are more involved in P4C than G4L - surely, in practical terms, they are the same thing? Were the Heads Up things (ICHUC?) G4L rather than P4C?  I'm a bit bamboozled by what difference that makes. To "us", P4C & G4L are one & the same, & any suggested difference only muddies the water.

I shall be making two important (imo) Posts on this thread today, both intended to be construtive - and then I'm gonna consult with my fellow Mods & suggest to them that the thread be locked on Christmas Day & Boxing Day, & re-opened on 27th December. That will allow for some festrive cheer to take effect without "bad blood", & hopefully things will have calmed down by then.

I must say, FACTS are THE most important thing - it's good to talk, & Ang's appearance on this thread has worked wonders already.

Basically I have more involvement in organising poker events for P4C then the day to day running of G4L, although I am a volunteer for G4L as all funds raised from P4C go to G4L.

Ang

[bobby1]

Thankyou for that, the Motherwell expenses look to be not as bad as I feared.

The expenses add up to just over £4.1k there, including the £1.5k lost to the Hotel and the £0.9k in Cardiff.

Earlier, we were told the total expenses for the year had been £20k.

With the £8k wages, and £4.1k accounted for here, a remaining question is what was the other £7.9k spent on.

(Someone want to check my maths)

Tank,

Andy has not given out any figures for this year, so not quite sure where you have got that figure from, it was said by Tikay that it was an estimated total for 2006 but as for the exact figures I do not personally have access to those I'm afraid.

I am more to do with the running of P4C and not G4L.

Ang

Thank you Ang, & the mood on this thread is so much better now we have some info from "source", thank you.

I must say, I'm a little confused when you say you are more involved in P4C than G4L - surely, in practical terms, they are the same thing? Were the Heads Up things (ICHUC?) G4L rather than P4C?  I'm a bit bamboozled by what difference that makes. To "us", P4C & G4L are one & the same, & any suggested difference only muddies the water.

I shall be making two important (imo) Posts on this thread today, both intended to be construtive - and then I'm gonna consult with my fellow Mods & suggest to them that the thread be locked on Christmas Day & Boxing Day, & re-opened on 27th December. That will allow for some festrive cheer to take effect without "bad blood", & hopefully things will have calmed down by then.

I must say, FACTS are THE most important thing - it's good to talk, & Ang's appearance on this thread has worked wonders already.

Basically I have more involvement in organising poker events for P4C then the day to day running of G4L, although I am a volunteer for G4L as all funds raised from P4C go to G4L.

Ang

Ange, Thanks for passing the info on.

[North Angel]

Thankyou for that, the Motherwell expenses look to be not as bad as I feared.

The expenses add up to just over £4.1k there, including the £1.5k lost to the Hotel and the £0.9k in Cardiff.

Earlier, we were told the total expenses for the year had been £20k.

With the £8k wages, and £4.1k accounted for here, a remaining question is what was the other £7.9k spent on.

(Someone want to check my maths)

Tank,

Andy has not given out any figures for this year, so not quite sure where you have got that figure from, it was said by Tikay that it was an estimated total for 2006 but as for the exact figures I do not personally have access to those I'm afraid.

I am more to do with the running of P4C and not G4L.

Ang

Yes, the figure of 30% for 2006 came from Andy & Tony. They suggested the % would "not be better" than 2005, & I'm sure they will confirm that.

I note Andy has not Posted today, as he suggested he might, can we assume you are responding on his behalf?

No I am not here on Andy's behalf, I am just here to answer any questions I can until Andy can get onto the internet himself.

Ang

[thetank]

Anyone want to bullet point it as Tikay suggested to help Andy out when he gets online this evening?

I would, but I'm not of sound mind right now. Have started early with the festivities.

[Ginger]

Ok - I have a question - this link http://www.lifecycle-fundraising.org/display.php?op=showgallery&page=16 takes me to a project at the Bluebell nursery school which looks exactly like (in fact the pictures are the same) as the ironside project on Game for lifes web site.

What contribution has GFL made to this project - my assumption was it had paid for this to be rebuilt etc but Lifecycle (whose name is on the wall in one of the pictures on the G4L website) states "As with all the nurseries built from the 2005 Ball, funds have been put aside for all operating costs (including teachers' remuneration) for one calendar year."

It would appear that this charity has built the nursery and will be paying for ongoing costs. 

So my questions are:

1. Why have the GFL pictures have a different name above the door (albeit a temporary board)

2. What has GFL donated to this cause?

Thanks

Tracey

http://www.shivacharity.net/ << If you look at this link the guy who actually runs the charity you will see in total 21 different schools with Ironsides and Bluebird nursery.  Bluebird Nursery School is the first of Lifecycle's sponsorships, and replaces a Pre-school in Thirikkovil. Ironside's Game For Life Nursery School is situated just south of Batticaloa, in the middle of a Tamil community.
http://www.game4life.org/index.php?page=srilankaschools

So I am not quite sure what you are implying.


The total cost for this was £2500 and £2500 for another school which is being built at the moment

I noticed the Lifecycle logo a while ago too, but after this had all kicked off I thought it was not a very good time to start asking what the deal was.

I think what Dingdell is referring to is that on Lifecycle's site they have stated that they are building 12 nursery schools (7 of which are already built), and one of these is named as Ironsides Game for Life school, basically it does look like they are implying that THEY have built the school http://www.lifecycle-fundraising.org/display.php?op=showgallery&page=33  As you know the school is also listed on SHIVA charity's site http://www.shivacharity.net/iron.htm It certainly is very confusing and unclear as to who has funded what.

[North Angel]

Ok - I have a question - this link http://www.lifecycle-fundraising.org/display.php?op=showgallery&page=16 takes me to a project at the Bluebell nursery school which looks exactly like (in fact the pictures are the same) as the ironside project on Game for lifes web site.

What contribution has GFL made to this project - my assumption was it had paid for this to be rebuilt etc but Lifecycle (whose name is on the wall in one of the pictures on the G4L website) states "As with all the nurseries built from the 2005 Ball, funds have been put aside for all operating costs (including teachers' remuneration) for one calendar year."

It would appear that this charity has built the nursery and will be paying for ongoing costs. 

So my questions are:

1. Why have the GFL pictures have a different name above the door (albeit a temporary board)

2. What has GFL donated to this cause?

Thanks

Tracey

http://www.shivacharity.net/ << If you look at this link the guy who actually runs the charity you will see in total 21 different schools with Ironsides and Bluebird nursery.  Bluebird Nursery School is the first of Lifecycle's sponsorships, and replaces a Pre-school in Thirikkovil. Ironside's Game For Life Nursery School is situated just south of Batticaloa, in the middle of a Tamil community.
http://www.game4life.org/index.php?page=srilankaschools

So I am not quite sure what you are implying.


The total cost for this was £2500 and £2500 for another school which is being built at the moment

I noticed the Lifecycle logo a while ago too, but after this had all kicked off I thought it was not a very good time to start asking what the deal was.

I think what Dingdell is referring to is that on Lifecycle's site they have stated that they are building 12 nursery schools (7 of which are already built), and one of these is named as Ironsides Game for Life school, basically it does look like they are implying that THEY have built the school http://www.lifecycle-fundraising.org/display.php?op=showgallery&page=33  As you know the school is also listed on SHIVA charity's site http://www.shivacharity.net/iron.htm It certainly is very confusing and unclear as to who has funded what.

As I stated earlier maybe this will have to be taken up with the Shiva Charity.

Ang

[tikay]

Thankyou for that, the Motherwell expenses look to be not as bad as I feared.

The expenses add up to just over £4.1k there, including the £1.5k lost to the Hotel and the £0.9k in Cardiff.

Earlier, we were told the total expenses for the year had been £20k.

With the £8k wages, and £4.1k accounted for here, a remaining question is what was the other £7.9k spent on.

(Someone want to check my maths)

Tank,

Andy has not given out any figures for this year, so not quite sure where you have got that figure from, it was said by Tikay that it was an estimated total for 2006 but as for the exact figures I do not personally have access to those I'm afraid.

I am more to do with the running of P4C and not G4L.

Ang

Yes, the figure of 30% for 2006 came from Andy & Tony. They suggested the % would "not be better" than 2005, & I'm sure they will confirm that.

I note Andy has not Posted today, as he suggested he might, can we assume you are responding on his behalf?

No I am not here on Andy's behalf, I am just here to answer any questions I can until Andy can get onto the internet himself.

Ang

Ahh, I see, thank you.