Bad table selection but good hands

[totalise]

he plays 10/8

wtf.. fold JJ on the flop then!

[byronkincaid]

11/8

[Royal Flush]

a) I've never really tried this, i just assumed that everyone would take it as a Harrington probe bet and it wouldn't get me much info.

b) Your oppo has reraise you out of position preflop, surely the hand you hold is at the bottom of his range.

a) i don't get ya.

b) so you have already 'defined' your hand then, why do you need to do it again?

[theplayer_uk]

he plays 10/8

wtf.. fold JJ on the flop then!

I think so

[SupaMonkey]

a) harrington 1 says bet 1/3rd pot for a probe bet and 1/2 to 3/4s for a CB. So if i bet 1/3rd of the pot it looks like a probe bet no? I am inducing the reraise bluff (maybe i'm overthinking this).

b) if your hand is so well defined on the flop, why call?

[snoopy1239]

he plays 10/8

wtf.. fold JJ on the flop then!

I think so

Considering he has re-raised and is likely to continuation bet, what is the point of calling the pre-flop raise if you are going to fold on the flop, or do you reckon he should have folded to the initial pre-flop raise?

[byronkincaid]

he plays 10/8

wtf.. fold JJ on the flop then!

I think so

Considering he has re-raised and is likely to continuation bet, what is the point of calling the pre-flop raise if you are going to fold on the flop, or do you reckon he should have folded to the initial pre-flop raise?

catch a set to stack a tighty

[Royal Flush]

a) harrington 1 says bet 1/3rd pot for a probe bet and 1/2 to 3/4s for a CB. So if i bet 1/3rd of the pot it looks like a probe bet no? I am inducing the reraise bluff (maybe i'm overthinking this).

So you are trying to induce a bluff, that's not a bet to 'define my hand'

b) if your hand is so well defined on the flop, why call?

I didn't play the hand, nor did i close his range down so tight, it was yourself that labled that range then said you needed to define your hand!


Sorry if it's like i am picking on you but all this defining hand BS has finally made me crack.

[totalise]

a) harrington 1 says bet 1/3rd pot for a probe bet and 1/2 to 3/4s for a CB. So if i bet 1/3rd of the pot it looks like a probe bet no? I am inducing the reraise bluff (maybe i'm overthinking this).

b) if your hand is so well defined on the flop, why call?

yes, you are over thinking it a bit. Harringtons book is pretty bad for cash games

As for the flop call, you generally do it to see what happens on the turn. Against non nits, your hand is going to have reasonable equity against their betting range, but your equity is going to be quite bad against their calling range. I didn't realise Byron had walked over to the dark side, and that his mouse squeaked and ran for cover when it approached the raise button.

[Royal Flush]

I didn't realise Byron had walked over to the dark side, and that his mouse squeaked and ran for cover when it approached the raise button.

PMSL

[byronkincaid]

I could explain but it's prob best that I just exploit my image.

[snoopy1239]

he plays 10/8

wtf.. fold JJ on the flop then!

I think so

Considering he has re-raised and is likely to continuation bet, what is the point of calling the pre-flop raise if you are going to fold on the flop, or do you reckon he should have folded to the initial pre-flop raise?

catch a set to stack a tighty

I guess it was only $30 extra.

[elblondie]

seems like pretty good table selection tbh. All those players are on my friends list.

In the AA hand re-raise more preflop given that you are OOP and a psr is 52 anyway.
c/c the turn and re-eval river.

Seat 1: Tommyhill sits out
Seat 2: Snaps001 ($618.84 in chips)
Seat 3: -Gotcha- ($679 in chips)
Seat 4: colclough ($561.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Alkaline ($403.25 in chips)
Seat 6: KautoStar ($804 in chips)
Snaps001: posts small blind $2
-Gotcha-: posts big blind $5
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to -Gotcha- [As ]
Tommyhill sits back
colclough: raises to $15
Alkaline: folds
KautoStar: folds
Snaps001: folds
-Gotcha-: raises to $45
colclough: calls $30
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
-Gotcha-: bets $70
colclough: calls $70
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
-Gotcha-: checks
colclough: bets $166
-Gotcha-: calls $166
----- RIVER ----- [ ][]
-Gotcha-: checks
colclough: bets $280.50 and is all-in

hmmm didn't like the way this betting went at all. the flatcall on the turn where I would have shoved. the J is a card you don't want to see if, like me you take him for an overpair to the board he could now have the full house.
However he could also take you for a busted FD as you are just as unlikely as him to have the 7.

I'd be almost tempted to think he has JJ here and the river housed him up..I take it you folded to his river bet? You haven't defined his hand at all during the betting and that's a bit of a problem for me to determine whether it would be wise to call his river bet as your betting screams flush draw...so he could think his QQ or KK might also be good here.
very tricky on the river.

You're good you...like the way you think

[elblondie]

this is the hard part, It is hard to explain in a post and it is opponent and game dynamic specific.

Most of the time it is a river fold unless your opponent is too aggressive. In most cases this is not true and I think that the river bet is usually for value.

I think DC misplayed 2 streets in this hand. One pretty badly and one very badly.

Nope dont agree, only 1 street....the turn bet wasn't good
my excuse is that rob yong was teaching me to play 6 tables at once
However, plan B pulled me thru

[theplayer_uk]

this is the hard part, It is hard to explain in a post and it is opponent and game dynamic specific.

Most of the time it is a river fold unless your opponent is too aggressive. In most cases this is not true and I think that the river bet is usually for value.

I think DC misplayed 2 streets in this hand. One pretty badly and one very badly.

Nope dont agree, only 1 street....the turn bet wasn't good
my excuse is that rob yong was teaching me to play 6 tables at once
However, plan B pulled me thru

what do you think is good about the flop call?