Sensation at the Sandcastle - Blackpool Disqualification!

[RED-DOG]

Guilty or innocent, he could find himself barred for life. Grosvenor have no obligation to offer an explanation

There is no right of appeal, no independent review of the evidence. Grosvenor are judge, jury and executioner.

Next week, it could be you or I. That's the scary part.

[tikay]

He was allowed to start the comp at Blackpool bcause neither he NOR Grosvenor Blackpool were aware of any pending Ban.

To be fair, a very difficult situation for Grosvenor Blackpool, as well as for Ali, they were both "in the dark" as to the pending Ban.

One has to have sympathy for all parties here, what a tricky situation to to resolve!

[thetank]

I think that the chips should've been divided equally between the players.

So the big stacks should get punished?

Like i said, if you let him start the comp let him finish.

I can't see how he can be disqualified either, let him blind out.

OK, maybe not equally, but fairly

Not fair on the big stack.

If you have 1,000,000 chips and your opponent has 1 chip

1,000 chips are given to each player.

1,001,000 now plays 1001, his chances of winning have increased by around about 9,000%

Extreme example, it is still true though, even if one player has 50,000 and one 55,000

[charmaine]

IMHO, If they let him start the comp, they must let him finish, UNLESS he commits an offence after he has started.

I don't think it's fair to let him enter, and then disqualify him when he makes the final in good shape.

I agree , should of let him finish the comp  

[TightEnd]

Guilty or innocent, he could find himself barred for life. Grosvenor have no obligation to offer an explanation

There is no right of appeal, no independent review of the evidence. Grosvenor are judge, jury and executioner.

Next week, it could be you or I. That's the scary part.

this is true. I was speaking to a player this week who was banned from a Grosvenor four years ago, for socialising with dealers in a pub!.

Wrote two letters since asking to be reinstated, no answer to the second one and she asked me as the new forum rep to help her. Of course I have no influence.

[tikay]

I don't understand how you can all be saying he shoulda been allowed to finish without knowing what he is supposed to have done? If hypothetically it was something minor like counting cards at blackjack then of course he should be allowed to finish, if it's something really horrific or hypothetically cheating at poker then they would be right IMO.

I realise that lots of people here are friends of his and know what happened. I don't know the guy and have no idea what happened but I can think of lots of hypothetical reasons why it would be the right decision.

I am a friend of his, & a big supporter of Grosvenor, but I just don't know the right solution to this, & I was part of the debate!

I CAN say that the Ban was not for any "cheating" type incident, both parties would readily concur on that.

[thetank]

Did the players denying the chop know the circumstances under which Mr Mallu had come to be barred?

Would this have factored into their desicion?

[stewart]

it just beggars belief they could ban Ali, they make so much of him. whatever he has done and i haven't spoke to him so i don't know. surely they should of let him finish the comp or the players should of refused to play until he be aloud to continue. if they players did the correct thing this situation would not of happend if they refuse to let him in do an equal chop don't give him 9th place its like rubbing salt into the wounds

[Royal Flush]

Ali does a lot of money on the tables as far as i am aware.

What did he do for them to bar him!

[stewart]

lol james he would most likely of lost 1st prize and then some before he left the buliding

[Royal Flush]

lol james he would most likely of lost 1st prize and then some before he left the buliding

lol yeah

[tikay]

Did the players denying the chop know the circumstances under which Mr Mallu had come to be barred?

Would this have factored into their desicion?

Yes & no.

They were aware of the alleged reason for his ban, but their decision was nothing to do with that.

[TightEnd]

was tikay of the "chop it up lads, its only fair" school amongst the players?

what were the arguments against?

[Indestructable]

A lot has been said before about Grosvenor banning anyone in competition to their business. Isn't that why Rob didn't go to BB3?
As for the ruling as ever it comes down to a lack of rules to cover situations like this. Where is Poker425 when you need it?
Distributing the chips seems an easy solution, but if it was an online comp the chips would just sit there to be blinded away and I think in the absence of a rule that most players would expect this to happen live.

[tikay]

it just beggars belief they could ban Ali, they make so much of him. whatever he has done and i haven't spoke to him so i don't know. surely they should of let him finish the comp or the players should of refused to play until he be aloud to continue. if they players did the correct thing this situation would not of happend if they refuse to let him in do an equal chop don't give him 9th place its like rubbing salt into the wounds

It WAS suggested that we would refuse to play it out, but....

1) Several players would not agree.

2) Various versions of why Ali was barred started to circulate, & in the light of this, the decision was made to "play on".

3) The "chop" was suggested, & rejected.