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Poppet7
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December 30, 2006, 08:00:53 PM »
Hmm...
Tough decision. I know how strict Grosvenor are with their bans, he should've been let back in to continue the game but they didn't so I think that the chips should've been divided equally between the players. 9th place money is acceptable because they couldn't have given him any more than that.
I agree with RED-DOG, if they let him start it, they should let him finish it.
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December 30, 2006, 08:01:45 PM »
the problem with the chip equity is that is over-values the bigger stacks, so the smaller stacks would be shooting themselves in the foot if they agreed to do it... and I dont think they should leave his chips in play if he is disqaulified, how can a person
'ed move up a pay ladder?
Saying all that, I agree completely with Red that if they are gonna let him start, they should let him finish.
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December 30, 2006, 08:02:14 PM »
I agree with you and flush on that Red.
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December 30, 2006, 08:03:24 PM »
Quote from: booder on December 30, 2006, 07:50:02 PM
who were the other players?
The overnight situation was, in Seat Order (after the re-draw), with blinds at 2k-4k for a full 45 minute level......
tikay 36,000
Mark Greenwoood (aka The Chaser? from AWOP?) 29,000
A Booth 42,000
Ali Mallu (DISQUALIFIED) 135,000
Andy Bradshaw 62,000
Ron "Victor Meldrew" Haworth 28,000
P Ioannou 141,000
J Morgan 36,000
R (blondeite "Action Man") Trigg 60.000
I had an early misread, followed by Mark Greenwood, & then the unlucky Action Man, who had a big setback with AK.
I departed shortly after exiting, I am sorry to say the atmo in the Final was not exactlty "warm", though I'm very pleased to say we all shook hands when I departed.
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December 30, 2006, 08:04:02 PM »
I agree with RED, if he was ok to start the comp, he must be allowed to finish it
Giving him 9th place money is bad too..if you leave his chips on the table then a few might get knocked out( shortstacks etc) while he is blinded away thus you are denying him a chance to ladder up, making the ignominy even worse!
If I was one of the 8 remaining, I'd be arguing loud and strong for a nine way chop out of fairness to a competitor hard done by. Unfashionalble maybe. Equitable? I think so.
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December 30, 2006, 08:08:08 PM »
But was he hard done by? we don't know the reason for the ban. If Mr M knew he was likely to be banned from other/all of the chains casino's then on his head be it if he gets pulled out before the finish.
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December 30, 2006, 08:08:31 PM »
Quote from: Poppet7 on December 30, 2006, 08:00:53 PM
I think that the chips should've been divided equally between the players.
So the big stacks should get punished?
Like i said, if you let him start the comp let him finish.
I can't see how he can be disqualified either, let him blind out.
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December 30, 2006, 08:08:52 PM »
9 way chop, followed by an 8-man £800 buy-in STT.
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December 30, 2006, 08:09:42 PM »
Quote from: thetank on December 30, 2006, 08:08:52 PM
9 way chop, followed by 4000 8-man £800 buy-in STT's.
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December 30, 2006, 08:11:12 PM »
Quote from: thetank on December 30, 2006, 08:08:52 PM
9 way chop, followed by an 8-man £800 buy-in STT.
Was suggested, & rejected. (By the players in both cases).
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Ioannou is Cid fae Cincins surname.
Chip leader any relation?
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Quote from: Ginger on December 30, 2006, 08:08:08 PM
But was he hard done by? we don't know the reason for the ban. If Mr M knew he was likely to be banned from other/all of the chains casino's then on his head be it if he gets pulled out before the finish.
I don't believe he was aware of any imminent Ban. He told me there was an argument elsewhere on Wednesday, & nobody had said any more, he assumed it was history. He arrived today to find himself barred.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 30, 2006, 08:04:02 PM
I agree with RED, if he was ok to start the comp, he must be allowed to finish it
Giving him 9th place money is bad too..if you leave his chips on the table then a few might get knocked out( shortstacks etc) while he is blinded away thus you are denying him a chance to ladder up, making the ignominy even worse!
If I was one of the 8 remaining, I'd be arguing loud and strong for a nine way chop out of fairness to a competitor hard done by. Unfashionalble maybe. Equitable? I think so.
Final paragraph - strongly suggested, & strongly rejected. (In both cases, by the players).
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Re: Sensation at the Sandcastle - Blackpool Disqualification!
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December 30, 2006, 08:14:56 PM »
I don't understand how you can all be saying he shoulda been allowed to finish without knowing what he is supposed to have done? If hypothetically it was something minor like counting cards at blackjack then of course he should be allowed to finish, if it's something really horrific or
hypothetically
cheating at poker then they would be right IMO.
I realise that lots of people here are friends of his and know what happened. I don't know the guy and have no idea what happened but I can think of lots of hypothetical reasons why it would be the right decision.
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Re: Sensation at the Sandcastle - Blackpool Disqualification!
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December 30, 2006, 08:15:23 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on December 30, 2006, 08:08:31 PM
Quote from: Poppet7 on December 30, 2006, 08:00:53 PM
I think that the chips should've been divided equally between the players.
So the big stacks should get punished?
Like i said, if you let him start the comp let him finish.
I can't see how he can be disqualified either, let him blind out.
OK, maybe not equally, but fairly
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