Sensation at the Sandcastle - Blackpool Disqualification!

[tikay]

A lot has been said before about Grosvenor banning anyone in competition to their business. Isn't that why Rob didn't go to BB3?
As for the ruling as ever it comes down to a lack of rules to cover situations like this. Where is Poker425 when you need it?
Distributing the chips seems an easy solution, but if it was an online comp the chips would just sit there to be blinded away and I think in the absence of a rule that most players would expect this to happen live.

It'd be pretty tough to frame a set of Rules to allow for a contingency so unusual as this, imo.

But I agree, "online" the chips would stay there, & just blind away, & this was my first thought today. Then Ali may have "laddered" a few spots, rightly or wrongly. From a personal point of view, that would have eased my conscience, but one can see & respect every side of this very complex moral dilemma.

[Royal Flush]

but one can see & respect every side of this very complex moral dilemma.

I can't, why disqualify him from the comp, it makes no sense.

[Jim-D]

but one can see & respect every side of this very complex moral dilemma.

I can't, why disqualify him from the comp, it makes no sense.

Agree,  Why couldnt it wait another 24 hours?  then none of this mess would occur!

[snoopy1239]

I vote for his chips to stay in play and for Ali to receive the prize for whatever position he finishes.

[Royal Flush]

but one can see & respect every side of this very complex moral dilemma.

I can't, why disqualify him from the comp, it makes no sense.

Agree,  Why couldnt it wait another 24 hours?  then none of this mess would occur!

Not that, if he is barred thats 1 thing, but why disqualify him from the comp aswell?

[Ginger]

IMO if they have disqualified him he shouldn't have gotten 9th place, his money should have been refunded only.

[Indestructable]

Good point, I guess it depends on why he was banned.

[thetank]

Distributing the chips seems an easy solution, but if it was an online comp the chips would just sit there to be blinded away and I think in the absence of a rule that most players would expect this to happen live.

He was disqualified, not disconnected.

If someone is disqualified in an online comp, one would think their chips would be removed from play too.

Leaving them on the table is bad for the short stacks, evenly distributing is bad for the big stack. Removing them is fair on everyone left in the comp.

I don't think that's really the issue though. Grosevenor made a desicion that was popularly deemed unfair for the 9th player, and the remaining 8 players were unable to agree to do right by him.

[Tractor]

To be fair, If i was on the table and someone I didnt know was banned as in this case I wouldnt accept a chop.
It may have been some players first time on a final table, why chop it for someone that has just been barred, the players who opted against this option probably didnt know him and for all they know he could of been banned from cheating.
I would of thought the chips should have been distributed to the remaining players un proportion to there stacks at the time, to keep the right number of chips in play.

[booder]

i think they should have hung him                        

[ariston]

I would class Ali as a good friend and have respected him since I very first started playing the game. If I had been at the final table I would not have been able to play on and would have left the casino. Although I am broke at the minute I do not want to win any comp by default and I really do believe this is a disgraceful decision by Grosvenor. Whatever ali has been banned for has no relevance (and he would never be a cheat before anyone thinks that), he started the comp so should be allowed to finish it. Giving him his money back is a disgrace- if he had dropped 10k on the blackjack last night (a possibility for Ali) would they have given him his money back as he shouldn't have been allowed to play?

If you think back to the wsop 2 years ago tony and the conversation we had over breakfast one morning about the omaha comp (heads up f bomb) remember what I said then- this is exactly the same for me.

[snoopy1239]

http://www.blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/6572

Can anyone work out who Anon is?

[Ginger]

How is it a disgrace to return his entry fee? no more disgraceful than allowing a barred player from laddering into a higher place. Mistakes were made and there is no perfect solution.

[Jim-D]

How is it a disgrace to return his entry fee? no more disgraceful than allowing a barred player from laddering into a higher place. .

Hence the reason to allow him to finish the comp

[thetank]

I would of thought the chips should have been distributed to the remaining players un proportion to there stacks at the time, to keep the right number of chips in play.

Why does that matter?