Will lessons be learnt?

[ariston]

Think you are forgetting the greatest poker player in the world ( he has a NECS trophy to prove it) has his own website come Thursday. Not any website, oh no a website edited by the Gary Bushell of Poker Ariston. By January Mercedes, Rolex, Toshiba and Pound Stretcher will have agreed to pay 'The Man' into every event at the WPT, EPT, WOP & P4C. Bet against it at your peril!!!!!

I have been dealing with sponsorship for Ian admittedly. Companies so far signed up include Mcdonalds, Burger King, KFC and Pantene (because hes worth it  )

[The Truth]

Don't slag it until you have been to a P4C event. Then you have every right to complain, and I am sure the promoter will listen to you...... as long as P4C get a mention in the Telegraph.  

[The Truth]

LoL@Ariston 

Is there a company called www.menthatdrivegirlscars.com?

[M3boy]

When I phoned the Vic to ask for the structure of the main event (as it has been ommitted from their nice colour brochure), here is the reply i got
"We have not yet decided on the structure, as it is televised, it will depend on the number of players and the time taken"

Not the answer I was looking for for a £3000 buy in comp.

Also, the £1000 f/o at the start of the week is only 5000 points to start with, so after only 2 hours (if you find no hands or fail to steal a few pots/blinds)you will become short stacked

VERY poor i thought.

[Milkybarkid]

I am giving the £1000 a wide berth..... for the money i just don't think you get enough chips simple as that.

Hmmmm "We have not yet decided on the structure, as it is televised, it will depend on the number of players and the time taken"

I'll tell you what that will mean......

If as expected they sell out it will be a 45 min clock. The reason that the EPT Barcelona could not be extended despite the number of runners is because the Pokerstars TV crew were booked to go home on the Sunday.

What players want comes at the bottom of their thinking.

Players could boycott big buyin crapshoot strcuctures but i doubt they will.

[TightEnd]

Also, the £1000 f/o at the start of the week is only 5000 points to start with, so after only 2 hours (if you find no hands or fail to steal a few pots/blinds)you will become short stacked

VERY poor i thought.

I played this on the Monday night of the last Vic week, the week Tony g won the big one

It happened to me, found nothing for an hour and was out at 11.30 having pushed it in with AQ short stacked and lost a race

A lot of the faces gambled to get chips quick..eg Gosney, Grech,Vogl,Duthie on my starting table were gone before the 100-200 level

Complete waste of money for me with that structure, the £300 on the Sunday was no quicker so there was better value in that!!

Next week there are cheaper events at the Gutshot festival with a similar structure but...slightly longer clocks

I know where I'm going

IMO the Vic gets tournaments all wrong, but do they care?...like hell they do...get you knocked out and into the cash games, that's the mantra

[M3boy]

Seemed strange that the Omaha Double Chance (again £1000 buy in) you get 10,000 points.

[M3boy]

Tight End?

Any seats left for the £500 at the gutshot do you know?

[Royal Flush]

When I phoned the Vic to ask for the structure of the main event (as it has been ommitted from their nice colour brochure), here is the reply i got
"We have not yet decided on the structure, as it is televised, it will depend on the number of players and the time taken"

Not the answer I was looking for for a £3000 buy in comp.

Also, the £1000 f/o at the start of the week is only 5000 points to start with, so after only 2 hours (if you find no hands or fail to steal a few pots/blinds)you will become short stacked

VERY poor i thought.

TightEnd you beat me to it, i was about to post about the Gutshot events.

Ok the Venue might not be as nice, but at least you know you wont have strucutres shifted on you, also given that a lot of the "top" players will be at the Vic it should mean that the gutshot is clear for us fish to clean up!!!

[TightEnd]

Two other things....rant developing now

a) For the EPT biggie next week you all have to turn up at 2.30pm on the Friday to find out if you are playing day 1 (Friday at 4pm) or Day 2 (Sat at 3pm)...how daft is that? surely they can allocate you a day when you pay your money...what's the f ing point of turning up at 2.30 on the Friday to be told to come back 24 hours later? Oh, so you stay and play cash of course!!!

b) if the names boycott it, they'll just fill it with more satellite qualifiers and kids who want the exposure...the name players don't seem to have any leverage here


I wish someone could get this stuff through to Duthie...it's damaging the EPT's reputation

[TightEnd]

Tight End?

Any seats left for the £500 at the gutshot do you know?

I don't but I'm there on Thursday for a private event, and intend paying in to stuff then

I'll try to remember to post after then

or check the gutshot forum now I suppose

[Milkybarkid]

Also for the £1000 Omaha. If you make the final and draw day 1 of the EPT what happens as there will be a clash?

They can't be expecting to provide a decent structure because they have a £300 scheduled for the Day 2 when the runners combine.....

I also heard that you actually have to turn up on Day 1 even if you buy your ticket beforehand just to draw your seat and get told you are scheduled for Day 2. If they wanted to they could do what the WPT does and allocate you a day when you buy a ticket.

They just want players there so they play the tables.

Tsk

[TightEnd]

I am giving the £1000 a wide berth..... for the money i just don't think you get enough chips simple as that.

Hmmmm "We have not yet decided on the structure, as it is televised, it will depend on the number of players and the time taken"

I'll tell you what that will mean......

If as expected they sell out it will be a 45 min clock. The reason that the EPT Barcelona could not be extended despite the number of runners is because the Pokerstars TV crew were booked to go home on the Sunday.

What players want comes at the bottom of their thinking.

Players could boycott big buyin crapshoot strcuctures but i doubt they will.

Ben, are you playing the biggie?

I know you love the big events, but if you don't mind me asking, can't you use your cash better in your bread and butter games?

[The Truth]

Tightend, Flushie as you are both P4C Platinum members I thought I would share this with you.

In 2006 P4C will hold a Platinum members only NLHE tournament. As the name suggests the tournamentis open to P4C Platinum Members only. In addition players will be expected to be members of BlondePoker and THM as well. The tournament is a £250 double chance freezeout NO REGESTRATION FEE at a venue in London. The folowing evenig will see the Platinum club piss up dinner at £50 / head which includes top quality food and premier after dinner speaker. At present we are looking at 2hr clock and big starting chips.  Only P4C Platinum members will be invited ..... and yes that includes you IRONSDE (my impatial money is on the Scot!).

[TightEnd]

Tightend, Flushie as you are both P4C Platinum members I thought I would share this with you.

In 2006 P4C will hold a Platinum members only NLHE tournament. As the name suggests the tournamentis open to P4C Platinum Members only. In addition players will be expected to be members of BlondePoker and THM as well. The tournament is a £250 double chance freezeout NO REGESTRATION FEE at a venue in London. The folowing evenig will see the Platinum club piss up dinner at £50 / head which includes top quality food and premier after dinner speaker. At present we are looking at 2hr clock and big starting chips.  Only P4C Platinum members will be invited ..... and yes that includes you IRONSDE (my impatial money is on the Scot!).

sounds marvellous, can't wait

a small request from me, weekends often difficult as I have the kids, midweek would be fantastic (if you don't ask, you don't get!)...but obviously do what's best for the majority