Some hands for discussion - 3

[M3boy]

Game #4186116364: Hold'em NL ($1/$2) - 2007/01/16 - 13:16:34 (UK)
Table "Temptation" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: Vas170810 ($178.50 in chips)
Seat 2: HarrisMP ($37.75 in chips)
Seat 3: sper3 ($197.75 in chips)
Seat 4: M3Boy ($184 in chips)
Seat 5: Simmkin ($242 in chips)
Seat 6: hydral ($288.97 in chips)
M3Boy: posts small blind $1
Simmkin: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to M3Boy [ ]
hydral: raises to $10
Vas170810: calls $10
HarrisMP: folds
sper3: folds
M3Boy: raises to $26
Simmkin: folds
hydral: folds
Vas170810: calls $16
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
M3Boy: bets $35
Vas170810: raises to $152.50 and is all-in

What do you do?

[WellChief]

Raise quite a bit more preflop, you're out of position all hand, to 40ish maybe.  Then bet a bit bigger on the flop.  Dunno what to do as played, depends on the player, probable fold.

[Smart Money]

(Disclaimer: I am a full-handed cash table player, and so my opinions may not always fit in so well to questions relating to 6-handed play!! )


I'd probably play pre-flop and flop the same. (Betting too big on the flop with a high pair is one of the biggest mistakes people make at the cash tables. It gives excellent value to anyone calling pre-flop with any pair.)

I would guess he has AA, set, or 66. (99 and 44 are remote possibilities) making you approx. a 10% dog in the first two, and slight favourite (60%) in the latter.

What's your opponent like? What percentage of flops does he see? (If he's very tight pre-flop it adds weight to him having a set.) Or is he a loose maniac?

With no info on him, I'd fold.

[Royal Flush]

The weak lead was surely to induce the raise, i am thinking QQ-99, possible he has a set but he is more likely to flat call your weak bet thinking you have missed.

Interestingly why did the first player raise and then fold for just 16 more?? What would the cash game players on here do that with, my guess is hands that are so hard to play to a re-raise like AJ/AQ?

[jakally]

Posted by: Royal Flush 

Interestingly why did the first player raise and then fold for just 16 more?? What would the cash game players on here do that with, my guess is hands that are so hard to play to a re-raise like AJ/AQ?

Very few occasions I would flat call a large raise UTG+1. Almost never with hands that I would put down to a reraise.

Would probably fold to the all in unless I had some info, but would do it through gritted teeth, and wouldn't need much history to turn it into a call.

Jak.

[boldie]

Game #4186116364: Hold'em NL ($1/$2) - 2007/01/16 - 13:16:34 (UK)
Table "Temptation" Seat 3 is the button.
Seat 1: Vas170810 ($178.50 in chips)
Seat 2: HarrisMP ($37.75 in chips)
Seat 3: sper3 ($197.75 in chips)
Seat 4: M3Boy ($184 in chips)
Seat 5: Simmkin ($242 in chips)
Seat 6: hydral ($288.97 in chips)
M3Boy: posts small blind $1
Simmkin: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to M3Boy [ ]
hydral: raises to $10
Vas170810: calls $10
HarrisMP: folds
sper3: folds
M3Boy: raises to $26
Simmkin: folds
hydral: folds
Vas170810: calls $16
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
M3Boy: bets $35
Vas170810: raises to $152.50 and is all-in

What do you do?

I don't get the 35$ raise. any overpair to the board would stick you in here. I call and pray he hasn't hit a set.

[M3boy]

As James has said, the weak lead on the flop was to induce a re raise.

Boldie - I lead out on the flop, not raised

[M3boy]

Of course I called, gladly :

M3Boy: calls $117.50
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
----- RIVER ----- [ ]

----- SHOW DOWN ----- Vas170810: shows [ ] (Two Pairs, Tens and Eights, Seven high) M3Boy: shows [ ] (Two Pairs, Kings and Tens, Eight high) M3Boy collected $366 from Main pot ----- SUMMARY ----- Total pot $369 Main pot $366 Rake $3 Board [ ] Seat 1: Vas170810 showed [ ] and lost with Two Pairs, Tens and Eights, Seven high Seat 2: HarrisMP folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: sper3 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: M3Boy (small blind) showed [ ] and won ($366) with Two Pairs, Kings and Tens, Eight high Seat 5: Simmkin (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: hydral folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[boldie]

As James has said, the weak lead on the flop was to induce a re raise.

Boldie - I lead out on the flop, not raised

sorry my bad...yeah the lead out is what I meant. I was confused because you asked what to do. and that's why I was questioning the 35$ bet as, as you said, it was to induce the re-raise.

[Royal Flush]

N1 M3.

[M3boy]

N1 M3.

Ta, although they are not all like that lol

UL in Bolton BTW

[Royal Flush]

Should have been out on level 1 of day 2 so i cant complain!

You be having a crack at the walsall sats? The event really is first class.

[M3boy]

Should have been out on level 1 of day 2 so i cant complain!

You be having a crack at the walsall sats? The event really is first class.

Oh yes indeed!