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« on: January 23, 2007, 01:13:42 AM »

Tonight I experienced something that not only shocked me, but upset me at the same a time, not because of what I witnessed, but the unexpected way in which I handled that specific situation.

On returning from Copenhagen, Dana informed me her that her friend was staging a little meal in which a few of their close friends would wine and dine in celebration of his 27th.

Although I was pretty fatigued and didn’t fancy a night of socialising with a dozen people I didn’t know, I thought I’d accompany my girlfriend and try to have a good time.

The birthday boy, Jack, is gay. A friend from their university days, Jack came out whilst studying, and has never encountered friction for that confession from the likes of Dana and Jen.

Personally, although I have never really met a gay guy, I considered myself to have no inhibitions on the matter and would have no problem treating him the same as I would anyone else.

His work colleague, however, was grotesquely camp. Singing boy band songs, clapping like a seal, calling people honey, etc, his vivid campness was enough to make him one of the most annoying people I’d met, and, to my dismay, I was forced to sit next to him for the entire meal.

Don’t get me wrong, he was probably a nice enough guy, and I have absolutely nothing against homosexuality, but I just find campness horrifyingly infuriating. Perhaps I’m wrong, but to me, it’s just a desperate cry out for attention, and I can’t stand it.

However, this didn’t really bother me too much. He may have stuck his fork in my food without permission and constantly brought up various cringe-worthy sexual innuendos, but I’m a tolerant man, so I just tried to be nice, pleasant and sociable and hope that I’d be departing soon.

Anyhow, this wasn’t my main beef. On leaving the restaurant, I agreed, mainly for the sake of Dana, to go for a quick drink before making tracks. Unfortunately for me, I failed to realise that this agreement would involve a venture into a gay club, effectively entitled G.A.Y.

Slightly unaware of what I was getting myself into, I said to myself, “It’s just a club, what harm can it do, I’ll only be there for an hour or two” and proceeded to enter the establishment. However, my confidence would soon be shattered when the reality of the gay scene set in…

Met with gay posters, exceedingly camp music, transvestites, men in tight vests and so on, I soon realised that adjusting to my new surroundings would be harder than I first thought. I immediately felt vastly uncomfortable, and although reminded that ‘there are a few girls here too’ ‘you just have to let you inhibitions go’ and ‘it’s just like a normal club but with gay people’, I simply couldn’t get used to the idea I was in a gay club. Even with my fuchsia shoes, which now DID feel pink, I felt so out of place it was unbelievable.

I swiftly found the first seat I could and quietly sat in the corner, somewhat frozen as I watched the place gets busier and busier. Gyrating asses, gay guys swinging their hips to Stayin’ Alive, blokes in blonde wigs rubbing other blokes’ chests, groups of vested boys in ultra tight jeans boys lurking around the bar – it was all a little too much for me, and I didn’t like it, not one bit.

Jen and Dana made fun of me a little, but to me this was a severely discomforting experience, and after about 15 minutes of willing each second away, I decided that I simply couldn’t stay there any longer and requested to leave. I took the keys off Jen, said my goodbyes, and made, what I then considered to be, a gauntlet run towards the exit.

Now, I know this all sounds like I’m a total git, a complete gay basher, or whatever, but that’s just the way it was. I have no problems in confessing that it was a horrible experience, and the mere thought of being back in that room scares the living daylights out of me.

What I do have a problem with, however, is the fact that I considered myself to be a nice person. I am not a racist, I am not discriminative against people, and I certainly never believed myself to be a hompophobe, but unfortunately, I guess I am.

The surprising thing is that I have no qualms regarding the practice of homosexuality. I don’t partake in it myself, but, as an atheist, I believe that you are what you are, and if you are gay then so be it. It’s not a choice or a slight on your social upbringing, but a mere fact that you were born different to the majority. This is my opinion, and I stick to it. I hate it when atheists quote the bible, speak ignorantly on the subject or simply attack this particular segment of society without any justified provocation, but that’s what they do, and unfairly so.

This still doesn’t deter from the fact that I reacted poorly and in a manner that was unjustified. Living in the Midlands, I was never brought up among homosexuals, and, Jack is probably the first one I’ve ever met. In Solihull, I don’t believe there are any gay bars or clubs, and if there were, I am sure they’d have bricks through the windows in seconds.

London is a cosmopolitan city with a wider slice of society represented and, more to the point, accepted. It’s the norm for there to be gay clubs and bars, but not from where I come from. Therefore, I felt totally out of place.

I’ve never been around gay people. I came from playing football, to drinking with the lads at uni, to playing poker at the casino. The gay scene is not something I’m aware of, and to find myself in such a starkly differing arena, was ultimately rather overwhelming. Simply sitting in a gay club was a complete culture shock.

The bottom line, however, is that whatever the reason is that I felt I had to leave, it is saddening that I did indeed do so, especially when I don’t consider my self to be a pregadiced person. But, having said that, that is probably what I am, as if wasn’t discriminative, then I would have treated the people within the establishment as I would any other normal human being and happily remained in the club. The fact that I didn’t is a slight on my character and suggests that I am not as secure as I first thought…
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2007, 01:22:24 AM »

Just because u didnt get any that night.......
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2007, 01:24:19 AM »

Being your first time in that environment, I think it's a little early to say "homophobe".

I'm sure if all the people in the club were dressed like your footballing buddies and acted like them too you would have been fine.

Give yourself time mate. You're trying very hard not to judge others - how about not judging yourself yet?
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2007, 01:34:00 AM »

I have absolutely nothing against gays either Snoop, but I would feel uncomfortable around a group of ott/camp ones.

Have you ever been amongst a group of women out on a hen night? I have! I've got  nothing against women, (no pun intended) but they scared the crap out of me!



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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2007, 01:41:32 AM »

I reckon you coulda done more than 15 minutes before leaving in a huff.

As life unfolds, you'll have to spend a fair bit of time in more places that arn't your cup of tea. Oftentimes for the sake of the good lady.

No pun intended, but was there not a fruit machine or something you could have played?
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2007, 01:43:54 AM »

WOW,

G.A.Y - is an interesting place for first- time goers...,

especially when you go there when:

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2007, 01:53:36 AM »

WOW,

G.A.Y - is an interesting place for first- time goers...,

especially when you go there when:

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Although I was pretty fatigued and didn’t fancy a night of socialising with a dozen people I didn’t know, I thought I’d accompany my girlfriend and try to have a good time.


Good point.

Individual people react differently when tired etc to different situations that they may not be used to. Snoops you left, even though you went under duress anyway, I'm really not sure you should beat yourself up too much over it.

If you do ever go again you may see things differently.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2007, 01:56:23 AM »

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If you do ever go again you may see things differently.

Perhaps go to Balans 1st - as a warm up.  great food and is pretty mixed:)
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2007, 01:56:43 AM »

What shoes were you wearing?  Cheesy
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2007, 02:02:49 AM »



I like a man with purple booties

(I'm done with the Snoopy-Gay jokes now, think this is supposed to be a serious thread.)
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2007, 02:08:22 AM »

I have absolutely nothing against woofters

not sure that is appropriate terminology

 isn't it a bit like calling a black man a nigger?
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2007, 02:21:52 AM »

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isn't it a bit like calling a black man a nigger?

I might agree with you here Mrslime
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2007, 02:27:48 AM »

I wonder what Flushys take on this subject is
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2007, 02:29:56 AM »

I'm not sure I agree that it's the same thing, but I take your point.

Unlike Mrs Lime, I can sometimes be guilty of posting without taking the feelings of others into consideration.

I apologise unreservedly. I will edit my post.
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