Ivey the hustler?

[tikay]

Phil now living in Barcelona?

If it is really Phil I would love to know why he claimed Lindgren gave him ten shots when in reality Erik gave him no shots. Do you think this is ethical or are you just trying to get another scalp you can brag about like the chinese poker story? I think for a scatch player to lose by 14 holes quite clearly calls for a stewards, if it isn't phil I would suggest the post is removed and all subsiquent posts.  I would imagine seeing as another thread has started on the betfair forum about this topic it is more likely its one of them trying to be clever.

Noted Russ, the Mods are watchig it closely, & the blondes know how many beans make five.

It may indeed be Phil Ivey. Or it may not.....

For now, we are monitoring it closely, if we feel the need to Delete it & subsequent Posts, we will.

There is also a thread on THM about it.

[sofa----king]

my own opinion as a poker player and gambler AND A GOLFER OFF 6
i think they should pay up it was ok when the boot was on the other foot last year when ivey was doing his bollox and marc was saying ahhhh he got plenty,it was all ok to give him shots then.how could there ever be a happy medium when a scratch (marc)gives a 20 handicapper shots,,,when playing for silly amounts of money???there dosent.....what woulda happened if ivey went backwards after not playing with these guys for 3 months?0 ..well im glad that ivey took them for a few quid they should pay....a bet is a bet....and marc being of scratch player should have seen that ivey had improved over 1-2 holes he must have just thought he was running hot.,.,.,.,.,and thought ,.,.thbis wont last ,.,.well it looks like it did..........well done ivey

i never ever heard ivey ever saying he wasnt getting enough shots out in  public???
funny now mind.......pay you debts and dont play again imho....

[Dubai]

Hi Phil.

Just to let u know Ariston is a delicate cross between the famous Mitchell brothers in Eastenders, so if you ever need debts being collected he is a very suitable candidate for the job

[ariston]

Lol dubai, how the hell would Ivey know who the mitchell brothers are.

If the post was made from a Spanish IP Phil must have very long arms as he is currently in Bogota ( I just checked).

[Dubai]

I reckon blame Zimbler. He should be blamed for anything happening in Spain.

[lazaroonie]

This was a very difficult thread for me to comment upon, but now Marc has replied, I'll add a bit.

Marc is a personal friend, who's helped me enormously, is a shareholder in blonde, & is working hard as a blonde shareholder to bring the blondes good deals - watch this space for an absolute corker!

getting a good deal on second hand set of Pings ?

 

[KingPoker]

Dont know if this is the right time to ask but is anyone selling a set of clubs. The ones i have now are way too short for me. I wanna get a gd  set b4 i hit it hard in the summer again! Played once a month back and hd the round of my life.

[riverdave]

I remember Marc telling me at Barcelona EPT last year that Ivey had told him the last person who had taken this sort of money of him had ended up driving taxi's round Vegas. Was this a veiled threat or Ivey exposing half his hand of the future planned hustle.

[RobS]

I remember Marc telling me at Barcelona EPT last year that Ivey had told him the last person who had taken this sort of money of him had ended up driving taxi's round Vegas. Was this a veiled threat or Ivey exposing half his hand of the future planned hustle.

Maybe Ivey's golf ball was remote controlled, similar to one of the older Bond movies.

[Royal Flush]

According to this Gus was Ram's partner:

All the Full Tilt boys are here and tomorrow we head off with Phil Ivey and Gus Hanson for a high stakes golf match with my partner in crime Ram Vaswani. One round of golf is worth a year’s winnings on the Europen Tour so, as you can imagine, some serious verbal takes place, with all sides trying to negotiate the best handicap - he reason we win is that Ram is different class at winding up Mr Ivey .

[b4matt]

bump..... negreanus blog... so one sided...

[Pokerron]

There is also a thread on THM about it.

I reckon there's more chance of me beating Tiger Woods at golf than Ram posting about this on THM forum.

[ariston]

all parties involved have agreed to go to arbitration using someone who understands high stakes gambling. They will abide by the decision and that should be the end of the matter.

[Eck]

Most of you have probably seen this but for those that haven't Juanda doesn't leave you in much doubt what his opinion is, who says poker players are hard to read.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2DdJu9fwfw&mode=related&search=

[MANTIS01]

Interesting question....

Marc stormed off after 7 holes because he felt the deal had been brokered unfairly.

Ram carried on with the round in spite of this.

Ram had a clear understanding of the form his opponent was in from this point in the round, and yet continued to wager $50k per hole nonetheless.

To continue with a clear understanding of the conditions of the bet and then to not pay is sailing close to the wind imo.

Also, could Eric not have been called before the game to confirm the conditions? If I was playing 50k per hole I would seek verification on the conditions before a ball was hit.

The problem is that Ivey's word has been accepted and a deal has been brokered on the strength of it. Accepting his word was a choice that Marc and Ram were free to make. They choose to trust his word and were clearly wrong to do so. However, this is after the fact.

I have played golf for 20 years and know that 99% of golfers embellish their unofficial handicaps to try and eek out an advantage. Because of this, I personally would have sought verification before confirming a wager for that quantity of money.

Phil Ivey lies every day for a living.

On this occasion Marc and Ram were bluffed.

Although this clearly shows the type of man Ivey is....a deal was struck. In hindsight it shouldn't have been.