General Fighting thread

[AdamM]

I've just checked and both Mir and Sylvia can be backed at 2.4 now.

Crazy, that's another £10 on each. for my level of sports betting, I'm pretty much lumped on both now

[thediceman]

I'd take the bet, but I've already laid Lesnar at 1.6 and 1.8. another £20 at evens is not very likely.

Not sure how all this laid betting stuff works, guess I should check it out sometime. I just made the £20 bet for a bit of interest and for the potential bragging rights. Let's make it a beer at the next blonde bash and for bragging rights just so I can say I know more about MMA than blondes resident MMA expert 

[AdamM]

I'll happily talk MMA with you at the next blonde bash (assuming I go) and if Lesnar wins I'll get them in.

[AdamM]

just been to UFC.com and watched all the press conferences and one to one interviews. I don't think Lesnar thinks he can win this fight. He basically says he's hoping to get lucky. This could be a walk over for Mir. I am warming to Lesnar as a person, but he's not ready to take on Frank Mir.

[scotty2hatty]

I don't think Lesnar thinks he can win this fight.

He did seem a bit apprehensive but I don't think he thinks this.  He'd be an idiot to take the fight if he doesn't think he can win.

Lesnar FTW!

[AdamM]

wouldn't have to be an idiot, just a proud, brave man, in over his head.

Mirs striking is miles better and Lesnar doesn't have the technical knowledge to defend the submissions.
Mir traingle or armbar early

[Benny Brox]

I hope Mir wins this fight, Lesnar might be a good guy (although maybe not with a tattoo like that) but he's been brought in as a pure marketing tool which I think disrespects all other fighter's who have been grinding and training for years in this sport just to get a chance in the UFC. The guy has one fight and gets signed up, a bit of a joke really.

Mir's 6/5 on Bet365 but don't know if that's a good price compared to other sites but it's good enough for my money. Lesnar is 6/4 favourite, which is surprising. All the other fights don't look worth betting (mega-favourites vs underdogs) unless anyone has tips on a shock victory on the undercard?

[AdamM]

you could maybe look at the price on Jeremy Horn to beat Nate Marquart. Horn's picked up a couple of undercard wins since Chuck made a mess of him but he's a tough guy to beat and he's 2.34 on Betfair. not a bad price, but if you can get a bit more he's maybe worth a shot.

Other than that, Sylvia and Mir are the only good prices.

[byronkincaid]

Lesnar has been training for a year, Mir 4 weeks. Who's showing the disrespect? Mir gasses in round 2 Brock wins by ground and pound? I think it' a very tough fight to call.

Adam how do you know Mir's striking is miles better? The big question is that nobody knows how good Lesnar is do they?

fwiw I have £20 on Lesnar and Sylvia. just got rid of sky tv, regretting it already

[scotty2hatty]

Can you do doubles on the UFC on Betfair?  Fancy a Lesnar/Sylvia double.

[AdamM]

sadly not. I've asked before, but there's not enough action for the multiples team to lay the action off apparently.

the bet wouldnt come in anyway.

I'm telling you, Mir has too many ways to win

[byronkincaid]

Lesnar is guaranteed $250,000, the highest of anyone on the show, plus has a $200,000 win bonus. Generally speaking, most UFC headliners earn substantially more than their contracted guarantees. Mir, who has a chance to revitalize his career with a win, has a $40,000 guarantee with a $40,000 win bonus.

The two participants in the title match, Nogueira and Sylvia, both have a $100,000 guarantee and a $100,000 win bonus.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=dm-ufcweighin020108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[AdamM]

all the more reason for Mir to beat lesnar, to secure better money in the future

[AdamM]

I told you Mir would beat Lesnar. Opening with a leg kick was a big mistake from Mir and it led to an early takedown. Steve Mazzagatti made an arse of himself as usual. I actually thought he was jumping in to award a TKO to Lesnar, but he was deducting a point for one strike to the back of the head. SACK THAT MAN. after soaking up 1 minute of punishment, Mir isolated a leg and cranked it and it was Tap or Snap (can I copyright that?). Nice to see Kurt Angle, Undertaker, Steve Austin, etc there to see their mate get owned.

Thought I was on for the double because Timmy was destroying Nogueira. The guy showed his class though. one mistake and Sylvia finds himself in a guillotine. Nogueira v Mir late summer will be a fascinating match, but I can't pick a winner.

Other highlights were David Heath getting annihilated by newcomer Tim Boetch and Almeida's cracking submission of Rob Yundt.

Fans were booing the Tyson Griffin v Glieson Tibau fight. no idea why. It was a great fight. You can't be booing just because a fight goes the full 3 x 5 mins.

[scotty2hatty]

Adam, you just think it was inexperience on Lesnar's part that he left his leg there for the taking?

Mazzagatti is ridiculous, one punch to the back of the head and he deducts a point - I've seen many more go unpunished.

Has Lesnar got a set number of fights in his contract with the UFC? I'd like to see him back.