how do you gauge how good a player you are

[the sicilian]

Ive been playing nearly 2 years and have always had reasonable results. recently i seemed to have made a transition in my game that i feel has upped me a few levels. I feel more confident and my play and reads seem to be very good.
I play at my local Grosvenor card room around once a week against what i consider some very good players.
My last 13 tournaments all £50-£100 fouts i have 8 final tables and 4 outright wins.I can also say honestly ( beyond the usual winning of a few races which you need ) i haven't had major luck or cards in this time.

My question is ...where can i gauge myself as a player in the great scheme of things ?? i have played a couple of £200 pound festival events and actually led one with a huge chip lead before making an unusual blowup ( think i got carried away)

Can I consider myself a good player and does my recent record stand up?

[Woodsey]

Look at your results over a whole year or longer and that will tell you. 13 tourneys is nothing, you need to look at results over at least at couple of hundred tourneys. I had an outstanding 18 months but can't win bugger all in the last 4-5 months. Can't stress the words long term enough.

[TheJumper]

Look at your results over a whole year or longer and that will tell you. 13 tourneys is nothing, you need to look at results over at least at couple of hundred tourneys. I had an outstanding 18 months but can't win bugger all in the last 4-5 months. Can't stress the words long term enough.

True. keep playing log all your entrys and winnings down and over a year the figures will speak for themselves.

[the sicilian]

i actually keep a spreadsheet of every single game i play even internet s&g (bit anal i know) although ive recently stopped playing internet as computers being thrown from windows is getting expensive.

i have found over 2 years im up both live and internet for a total of £5K

[Woodsey]

I record every flipping bean. Its important to know which games you are winning and losing. If I did not keep records I would never have realised how much I was losing in online cash games which I don't play anymore. Then you can maximise your profits and work on your game in problem areas.

[Royal Flush]

i have found over 2 years im up both live and internet for a total of £5K

My last 13 tournaments all £50-£100 fouts i have 8 final tables and 4 outright wins.I can also say honestly ( beyond the usual winning of a few races which you need ) i haven't had major luck or cards in this time.

This tells me that you are probably a break even player overall (depending on the field sizes for the 50-100 comps, i am imagining they got you out of overall debt) the trend is the most important thing to look at.

[Woodsey]

Thats a fair point. Without your recent wins u would be down right?

[Longy]

Long term, if you are a good player  you make $$$$$$$$$$$'s. If you are not you lose $$$$$$$. That is all.

[totalise]

Long term, if you are a good player  you make $$$$$$$$$$$'s. If you are not you lose $$$$$$$. That is all.

glad you layed this topic to rest!

[RED-DOG]

ive recently stopped playing internet as computers being thrown from windows is getting expensive.

Imho Good players don't throw computers out of windows.

[totalise]

ive recently stopped playing internet as computers being thrown from windows is getting expensive.

Imho Good players don't throw computers out of windows.

do good players snap their laptop on half?

[portfolio]

ive recently stopped playing internet as computers being thrown from windows is getting expensive.

Imho Good players don't throw computers out of windows.

do good players snap their laptop on half?

yip   its a minimum requirement!!!!!!!!!

[thetank]

Good players burn their PCs, in a cleansing pyre of billowing smoke.

Sicilian, if you feel like you are getting better, if you feel more confident, than you probably are getting better.
Don't rest on your laurels though, keep thinking about everything, keep asking questions, and you'll get ecen better still.

Good luck

[jakally]

Posted on: Today at 07:33:17 amPosted by: Longy 
Long term, if you are a good player  you make $$$$$$$$$$$'s. If you are not you lose $$$$$$$. That is all.

You don't necessarily need to be a 'good' player to make money (although it helps).

You just need to find players that are worse than you.

[Muahahahaha]

Can I consider myself a good player ?

Life is like a box of chocolates.

Stupid is as stupid does.




Define 'good'

I'm a profitable player, but I'm crap.  Last year I made $200 profit.  This year, if I lose every penny in every account I've got, I'll still be up.  So I'm getting better.  But I'm not going to win any $100k tourneys soon, so I'll stick at my $10 level for the time being, thank you.

I think the important thing you said was how you feel more confidant.  If you feel capable at this level & the cash involved is significant to you, then you're doing fine.  Considering that some of the top pros fail to convince that they are long term profitable, I think you should redefine your question.

Are you good enough ?

Yes, but you should want to get better.  Ask Doyle.