Moral or Immoral?

[The Camel]

You are heads up in the Main event of the WSOP...

The winner gets $12 million and the runner up gets $6 million and you are exactly dead even in chips.

Your opponent is totally obsessed with winning the event. He offers you first prize money if you let him win the bracelet. (ie you take 12mill and he gets 6).

Would you take this deal? And is it immoral to accept this deal?

[taximan007]

Personally i wouldn't deal, but i dont think it's immoral if somebody did

[Horneris]

Probs not. You cant say the money dosent matter but 6m is enough to retire and have any life you want so imo not really much point in not taking your shot to be the world champion.

If it was 3m (£1.5m english) for 2nd place it would change my decision.

[Royal Flush]

You are heads up in the Main event of the WSOP...

The winner gets $12 million and the runner up gets $6 million and you are exactly dead even in chips.

Your opponent is totally obsessed with winning the event. He offers you first prize money if you let him win the bracelet. (ie you take 12mill and he gets 6).

Would you take this deal? And is it immoral to accept this deal?

Assuming he has no significant edge then i would play on.

[Newmanseye]

Play on if you believe you can win, You make more from the sponsorshipe and advertising deals after winning that from the prize of the tourney.

[totalise]

lol i was thinking about this exact thing a couple of weeks ago, and i would 100% let him have first place if i got the $12m. The reason why i was thinking of it was because I was watching a WSOP replay and all the pros were saying about how the money isn't important, they only want the bracelet, blah blah blah, and wondered if they had/would cut this type of deal in any of the side events.

As for immorality, I dont think it is

[Swordpoker]

No deal for me.

Yes it is immoral to let someone win. Personally, I would be plagued by thoughts of 'what if...' for the rest of my life. And for the other guy, having the bracelet is one thing but knowing you didn't earn it is another.

[kvnstv]

Well if the player who wants to make the deal to give up the money but win because he wants to become an ambassador for the game and the guy who wants the money just wants a quiet life I can't see a problem with it. Everybody gets what they want.

[tikay]

Immoral & entirely wrong.

I would not do the proposed deal. Never, ever.

[boldie]

I don't see the problem with making the deal. Deals are made all the time at a final table of a poker tourney so I don't see why it should be a problem here. (I have been offered more money than the other guy several times but they wanted the win..Bless you and goodluck, you can have it)

If he wants to fame and "recognition" from the win then that's fine. I'd take the money everytime.

Having said that, if I am already winning 6mill I wouldn't make any deals, the last 6 mill aren't going to make a difference as 6 mill is a ridiculous amount of money to begin with.

If we were talking about a tourney were second is 10k£ and first is 50k£ I would take the deal in a second.

[BigTomatoes]

I don't see the problem with making the deal. Deals are made all the time at a final table of a poker tourney so I don't see why it should be a problem here. (I have been offered more money than the other guy several times but they wanted the win..Bless you and goodluck, you can have it)

If he wants to fame and "recognition" from the win then that's fine. I'd take the money everytime.

Having said that, if I am already winning 6mill I wouldn't make any deals, the last 6 mill aren't going to make a difference as 6 mill is a ridiculous amount of money to begin with.

If we were talking about a tourney were second is 10k£ and first is 50k£ I would take the deal in a second.

 i agree , dont see why you shouldnt deal ?

 extra 6 mil for nothing , that s gonna last a lot longer than a bracelet or title at the end of the day

[lazaroonie]

You are heads up in the Main event of the WSOP...

The winner gets $12 million and the runner up gets $6 million and you are exactly dead even in chips.

Your opponent is totally obsessed with winning the event. He offers you first prize money if you let him win the bracelet. (ie you take 12mill and he gets 6).

Would you take this deal? And is it immoral to accept this deal?

how would you let him win ?

[kvnstv]

Call all your money with a weak ace into a straight, thats what I would do.

[Swordpoker]

Well if the player who wants to make the deal to give up the money but win because he wants to become an ambassador for the game and the guy who wants the money just wants a quiet life I can't see a problem with it. Everybody gets what they want.

You don't see the problem with someone getting the recognition for winning something they didn't actually win?

And what about you, the guy who colluded to fix the result, have you really done nothing wrong?

I'm sure anyone who placed a bet on you at the bookies would have something to say about it.

[kvnstv]

Well if the player who wants to make the deal to give up the money but win because he wants to become an ambassador for the game and the guy who wants the money just wants a quiet life I can't see a problem with it. Everybody gets what they want.

You don't see the problem with someone getting the recognition for winning something they didn't actually win?

And what about you, the guy who colluded to fix the result, have you really done nothing wrong?

I'm sure anyone who placed a bet on you at the bookies would have something to say about it.

A fair point well made. But winning the main event is much more than winning any old tournament, you can't have you old life back when your the world champion. And how would you propose to stop someone just calling of there chips when they knew they where beat to avoid the media attention anyway? I remember Jamie Gold floating the idea he might chuck it because he did not want the attention that comes with being the world champion, not much anyone could have done if he had gone through with it.

I understand there's an underhanded feel to the proposed scenario that makes us all feel a little uncomfortable, but at the end of the day if its works out better for all involved then its no different than so many other deals that are cut.