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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2007, 04:12:36 PM »

A special post-bB4 this week, thanks to Tighty for this one. Wink

£50 rebuy, 92 runners, £13.8k prize pool. Blinds are 100/200
 
Just after rebuy period. Folded round to the small blind.
 
You're playing the part of the small blind with two hearts. Your image is that of an aggressive young player with 8,000 chips.
 
The big blind has 9,000 and is slightly older than you, not quite as aggressive, but capable of making a move now and then.
 
You complete the small blind and the big blind checks.
Flop:
 


You're first to act.


1. Is it worth passing or raising preflop? If so, why?

2. Now that you've limped, how much do you like this flop?

3. What is your intention on the flop? Bear in mind how this will affect yours and your opponents decisions later on in the hand.


I apologise, but there is a major error in the way Floppy described the hand played pre-flop, which changes the arguments. (Yes, I confess, I was the BB, & I must have explained it wrong to him).

I RAISED pre-flop, & the SB called the Raise.

Sorry for the confusion. It's a memory thing.

OK, with that knowledge - my Raise pre-Flop, & the SB's call, take it from there please.

I would say with the raise from the BB pre-flop it's a clear fold for me pre-flop. Howvere..since it's Tikay..he probably has Ace 4 thinking he has pocket Aces. Wink

Fold pre-flop

Exactly.......
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2007, 05:27:24 PM »

You did not raise preflop.
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2007, 05:30:12 PM »

no, tikay did not!
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2007, 05:48:37 PM »


That memory of mine......
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2007, 08:27:51 PM »

1. I find it much harder to stick in random blind steals live than online. Purely because I find myself played back at more when the blinds are still relatively small.

Online the blind has to just click to fold their nothing, lose next to no chips, and within half a second he will have a couple of new cards in front of him. Live, it all seems a little more personal, and stack after stack seems to be won and lost in meaningless blind contests.

I'm tempted to just call.
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2007, 11:57:57 AM »

could floppy please update the original post with exactly what did occur.

its hard for people to make choices or give views if they are being fed different info by different people.
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2007, 03:07:20 PM »

Recap:

With a stack of 6k, you've limped in with two hearts, and the big blind who is playing a stack of 9k has checked. (Blinds 100/200)

Flop:
 


You check. Big blind bets 400. You call.

Turn:

three clubs

You check. Big blind bets 1000. You call.

River:



You check. Big blind bets 1700. You ?


1. Would you play the flop/turn any differently? If so, how?

2. What are the advantages/disadvantages with this check/call strategy?

3. What sort of hand do you put the big blind on?
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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2007, 03:12:22 PM »

THERE WAS NO RAISE PREFLOP!!!
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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2007, 03:12:39 PM »

I heard this story at the time and i am pretty sure the slag who told me it said there was no raise pre flop, he also played it perfect.
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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2007, 03:13:56 PM »

personally i am of the camp fold it or raise preflop here

make it 600 preflop or fold as on most flops you will have no idea where you are

what sort of flop you want to see against 1 player who has ne2 cards
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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2007, 03:19:49 PM »

Recap:

With a stack of 6k, you've limped in with two hearts, and the big blind who is playing a stack of 9k has checked. (Blinds 100/200)

Flop:
 


You check. Big blind bets 400. You call.

Turn:

three clubs

You check. Big blind bets 1000. You call.

River:



You check. Big blind bets 1700. You ?


1. Would you play the flop/turn any differently? If so, how?

2. What are the advantages/disadvantages with this check/call strategy?

3. What sort of hand do you put the big blind on?


I'm with Mantis on this one...limping preflop was bad enough. Calling a raise with it ...well I dunno. I don't like it.

this check call strategy doesn't give you any info...you are just hoping that the BB has nothing here. all you do is pick up a bluff. If you had a monster it would be OK but in this case you have top pair no kicker so I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish here. at no stage during this hand do you show any strenght at all and you are essentially just bleeding your chips away against any half decent opponent.

Big blind can have any two cards..most likely a better King possibly even two pair.

i am thinking that the only way you could possibly win the hand here is if you pretend you had a monster all along and checkraise all in on the river...the only question then is..do you think BB can lay a decent hand down to that move?
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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2007, 03:21:49 PM »

could floppy please update the original post with exactly what did occur.

its hard for people to make choices or give views if they are being fed different info by different people.

All edited.

Everyone else, stop confusing each other, and me! Cheesy
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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2007, 03:24:48 PM »

For Boldie, and any others who may be confused...

THERE WAS NO RAISE PREFLOP!!!
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« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2007, 03:26:46 PM »

For Boldie, and any others who may be confused...

THERE WAS NO RAISE PREFLOP!!!
THERE WAS NO RAISE PREFLOP!!!
THERE WAS NO RAISE PREFLOP!!!
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lol...does anyone actually know what happened with this hand?Huh?...why not post a new hand and just keep it one where it is clear what the action was?? lol
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« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2007, 03:29:24 PM »

Floppy's post above is now 100% correct.
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