Liverpool FC

[The Baron]

go on then il lay the rest whatever u want at - dont rate them but they should be able to do this

I'll have another £100 @ 3/1

I think Carroll will turn out to be a great buy for you, he has the potential to be world class, the fact it's just potential at the minute is why it's a great deal for us but still a little disappointed that he's gone.

The thing I do not understand  why Newcastle sold him so late with no replacement lined up.

The choices up front are not exactly appealling as a quality Premiership strikeforce.

Best, Ameobi, Lovenkrands, Ranger.

Nowhere near safe yet, a couple of losses now, the wobbles will set in.

£35m is great business, but not if it costs you your Premiership place.

We've had a few decent performances recently (except v stevenage...) that carroll has been absent for. I think to claim he's the difference between relegation/survival is a bit extreme.

As much as I'd like Carroll to stay in the side you simply can't turn down £35m+. I wanted to keep him at £30m. But giving it some thought, and then hearing £35m + extras, it's just a ridic price. Just know hoping obviously that the money goes into the team in the summer...

What price will you lay me that Newcastle score 15 goals or less in the last 15 games of the season?

3/1

£100? Or whatever you are comfortable laying mate.

£50 and your on

Booked.

If tonight's performance is anything to go by, you boys are going to do your money.

Just for the record, you win if Newcastle score 52 goals or more, any less I win.

GG sir.

[The Camel]

go on then il lay the rest whatever u want at - dont rate them but they should be able to do this

I'll have another £100 @ 3/1

I think Carroll will turn out to be a great buy for you, he has the potential to be world class, the fact it's just potential at the minute is why it's a great deal for us but still a little disappointed that he's gone.

The thing I do not understand  why Newcastle sold him so late with no replacement lined up.

The choices up front are not exactly appealling as a quality Premiership strikeforce.

Best, Ameobi, Lovenkrands, Ranger.

Nowhere near safe yet, a couple of losses now, the wobbles will set in.

£35m is great business, but not if it costs you your Premiership place.

We've had a few decent performances recently (except v stevenage...) that carroll has been absent for. I think to claim he's the difference between relegation/survival is a bit extreme.

As much as I'd like Carroll to stay in the side you simply can't turn down £35m+. I wanted to keep him at £30m. But giving it some thought, and then hearing £35m + extras, it's just a ridic price. Just know hoping obviously that the money goes into the team in the summer...

What price will you lay me that Newcastle score 15 goals or less in the last 15 games of the season?

3/1

£100? Or whatever you are comfortable laying mate.

£50 and your on

Booked.

If tonight's performance is anything to go by, you boys are going to do your money.

Just for the record, you win if Newcastle score 52 goals or more, any less I win.

GG sir.

FML

[kinboshi]

http://tomkinstimes.com/2011/02/benitez-the-great-money-waster/

So how much did he actually spend and how much was recouped?

[Waz1892]

I make it a loss of £2.6m, which would have been £27.4m worse had we kept torres.

[MANTIS01]

http://tomkinstimes.com/2011/02/benitez-the-great-money-waster/

So how much did he actually spend and how much was recouped?

Do you think if Rafa turned a profit it means he spent Liverpool's money wisely? The bi-product of turning over loads of players is shallow roots in the club for example.

[77dave]

Do you think you could say something positive about Rafa's reign instead of looking for the negative in it all the time.

Yes he made some bad signings and yes he lost money on some players, but show me a manager that hasnt. The team needed strengthening throughtout his time and he bought and sold to make a profit in order to fund bigger purchases such as Torres, mascha and alonso. Rafa sold Baros for a profit, that was the 1st time Liverpool had done so since Kennys 1st reign.

Id welcome Rafa back in the future, seems he would love to take the job again at some point.

[boldie]

http://tomkinstimes.com/2011/02/benitez-the-great-money-waster/

So how much did he actually spend and how much was recouped?

Arguing with Martin Keown now?..Wouldn't waste my time on that TBH.

[MANTIS01]

Do you think you could say something positive about Rafa's reign instead of looking for the negative in it all the time.

Yes he made some bad signings and yes he lost money on some players, but show me a manager that hasnt. The team needed strengthening throughtout his time and he bought and sold to make a profit in order to fund bigger purchases such as Torres, mascha and alonso. Rafa sold Baros for a profit, that was the 1st time Liverpool had done so since Kennys 1st reign.

Id welcome Rafa back in the future, seems he would love to take the job again at some point.

Benitez is a Champions league winner, a UEFA cup winner, and a league winner. The results speak for themselves, he is an exceptional trophy getter and a master tactician. That doesn't address the topic I quoted but meh, you have your wish.

Don't think he should be sniffing round Anfield when Liverpool are in transition though.

[77dave]

Do you think you could say something positive about Rafa's reign instead of looking for the negative in it all the time.

Yes he made some bad signings and yes he lost money on some players, but show me a manager that hasnt. The team needed strengthening throughtout his time and he bought and sold to make a profit in order to fund bigger purchases such as Torres, mascha and alonso. Rafa sold Baros for a profit, that was the 1st time Liverpool had done so since Kennys 1st reign.

Id welcome Rafa back in the future, seems he would love to take the job again at some point.

Benitez is a Champions league winner, a UEFA cup winner, and a league winner. The results speak for themselves, he is an exceptional trophy getter and a master tactician. That doesn't address the topic I quoted but meh, you have your wish.

Don't think he should be sniffing round Anfield when Liverpool are in transition though.

really wish you would stay out of this thread. you dont add anything you just try to pick arguments for the sake of it

[MANTIS01]

Do you think you could say something positive about Rafa's reign instead of looking for the negative in it all the time.

Yes he made some bad signings and yes he lost money on some players, but show me a manager that hasnt. The team needed strengthening throughtout his time and he bought and sold to make a profit in order to fund bigger purchases such as Torres, mascha and alonso. Rafa sold Baros for a profit, that was the 1st time Liverpool had done so since Kennys 1st reign.

Id welcome Rafa back in the future, seems he would love to take the job again at some point.

Benitez is a Champions league winner, a UEFA cup winner, and a league winner. The results speak for themselves, he is an exceptional trophy getter and a master tactician. That doesn't address the topic I quoted but meh, you have your wish.

Don't think he should be sniffing round Anfield when Liverpool are in transition though.

really wish you would stay out of this thread. you dont add anything you just try to pick arguments for the sake of it

WTF? You're only seeing the negative in my post. And you're having a pop at me cos I'm only seeing the negative in Rafa? gg Dave.

[77dave]

Do you think you could say something positive about Rafa's reign instead of looking for the negative in it all the time.

Yes he made some bad signings and yes he lost money on some players, but show me a manager that hasnt. The team needed strengthening throughtout his time and he bought and sold to make a profit in order to fund bigger purchases such as Torres, mascha and alonso. Rafa sold Baros for a profit, that was the 1st time Liverpool had done so since Kennys 1st reign.

Id welcome Rafa back in the future, seems he would love to take the job again at some point.

Benitez is a Champions league winner, a UEFA cup winner, and a league winner. The results speak for themselves, he is an exceptional trophy getter and a master tactician. That doesn't address the topic I quoted but meh, you have your wish.

Don't think he should be sniffing round Anfield when Liverpool are in transition though.

really wish you would stay out of this thread. you dont add anything you just try to pick arguments for the sake of it

WTF? You're only seeing the negative in my post. And you're having a pop at me cos I'm only seeing the negative in Rafa? gg Dave.

yawn pls go away

[MANTIS01]

Do you think you could say something positive about Rafa's reign instead of looking for the negative in it all the time.

Yes he made some bad signings and yes he lost money on some players, but show me a manager that hasnt. The team needed strengthening throughtout his time and he bought and sold to make a profit in order to fund bigger purchases such as Torres, mascha and alonso. Rafa sold Baros for a profit, that was the 1st time Liverpool had done so since Kennys 1st reign.

Id welcome Rafa back in the future, seems he would love to take the job again at some point.

Benitez is a Champions league winner, a UEFA cup winner, and a league winner. The results speak for themselves, he is an exceptional trophy getter and a master tactician. That doesn't address the topic I quoted but meh, you have your wish.

Don't think he should be sniffing round Anfield when Liverpool are in transition though.

really wish you would stay out of this thread. you dont add anything you just try to pick arguments for the sake of it

WTF? You're only seeing the negative in my post. And you're having a pop at me cos I'm only seeing the negative in Rafa? gg Dave.

yawn pls go away

Ok, I liked his goatee beard as well. And his speech about facts.

[redarmi]

go on then il lay the rest whatever u want at - dont rate them but they should be able to do this

I'll have another £100 @ 3/1


If tonight's performance is anything to go by, you boys are going to do your money.

Just for the record, you win if Newcastle score 52 goals or more, any less I win.

GG sir.

FML

LOL - you don't have very good timing with these do you Keith???  Seem to remember Blackpool having their only 0-0 just after you took a bet at 4-1 they wouldn't have one.  Dubai runs GOOOOOOOD!!!!

[kinboshi]

http://tomkinstimes.com/2011/02/benitez-the-great-money-waster/

So how much did he actually spend and how much was recouped?

Do you think if Rafa turned a profit it means he spent Liverpool's money wisely? The bi-product of turning over loads of players is shallow roots in the club for example.

Just countering the ridiculously inaccurate figures you have previously quoted and your assertion that Rafa massively over-spent.

You talk about his turnover of players? Compared to other managers coming in to a club to turn around its fortunes, did he really do anything out of the ordinary, or just the same as other managers?

It's like the zonal-marking or his rotation policy, myths are perpetuated by the media (bye messrs Gray and Keys) and picked up by those too lazy to actually think about the situation.  In those cases, Liverpool consistently having the best or second-best defensive record in the league under Rafa, and a quick look at other club's squad rotation would show Liverpool's as nothing extraordinary.

Rafa would love to come back to Liverpool and finish what he started, but under owners who also want success and are willing to support him. I don't think it would be the right move (there are probably different avenues we should look to go down), but if the club went down that route I'd smile to see Rafa back at the helm.

Back to more pressing matters, anyone else looking forward to today's game?

[kinboshi]

http://tomkinstimes.com/2011/02/benitez-the-great-money-waster/

So how much did he actually spend and how much was recouped?

Arguing with Martin Keown now?..Wouldn't waste my time on that TBH.

Just putting some facts out there to counter the ridiculous nonsense that is often spouted in the media.