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« on: June 26, 2007, 02:05:01 PM »

Blinds 200-400, 9 handed, live

You are in the BB with 


a way off the money


Average Stack is 6,500 or so


UTG +2 raises to 800 leaving himself 2,600

Hijack calls 800, 7,000 back

Cut OFF Calls 800, 6,000 back

Button calls 800, 5,000 back

SB folds


Yes, its a weakish game..calling stations/people who must see flops etc

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you have 10,000

3800 in pot


How much to re-raise?

Is there a case for moving all-in, to make it look like a steal push? Shortish original raiser cannot refuse the odds and no one else should call...

Anyone play it cute?

I won the hand, so no bad beat alert.
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2007, 02:14:53 PM »

I shove in this spot.  Looks weaker than a raise to 3-4k..  Additionally there is already plenty in the pot, the original raiser has to call and one of the others will likely interpret your push as a steal and think his 8's are good.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2007, 02:16:33 PM »

insta dwell up for 2 minutes then all-in.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 02:16:44 PM »

Pushing here is horrible.

Raise another 2k, let the kippers come in!
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2007, 02:22:17 PM »

Playing it cute is WAY too dangerous...ideally, you want to be heads up but one more taker wouldn't be too bad. Any more and you really weaken AA.

Me, I'd pot it...3,800 to go! The shortie pretty much has to call, anyone else who takes you up is pot committed and, if the worst happens and you get an ugly flop, you still have plenty of fold equity.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2007, 02:25:48 PM »

if the worst happens and you get an ugly flop, you still have plenty of fold equity.


Eh? What does that mean please!
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2007, 02:28:28 PM »

Playing it cute is WAY too dangerous...ideally, you want to be heads up but one more taker wouldn't be too bad. Any more and you really weaken AA.

Me, I'd pot it...3,800 to go! The shortie pretty much has to call, anyone else who takes you up is pot committed and, if the worst happens and you get an ugly flop, you still have plenty of fold equity.


I agree with the pot sized bet, I'm not folding post flop though, pushing whatever cards come down
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2007, 02:46:31 PM »

Playing it cute is WAY too dangerous...ideally, you want to be heads up but one more taker wouldn't be too bad. Any more and you really weaken AA.

Me, I'd pot it...3,800 to go! The shortie pretty much has to call, anyone else who takes you up is pot committed and, if the worst happens and you get an ugly flop, you still have plenty of fold equity.


I agree with the pot sized bet, I'm not folding post flop though, pushing whatever cards come down

Really, KKx on the flop....sure you don't want to fold?....In fact, the LAST thing I want to see is a paired board except, perhaps, a flush flop where I DON'T have the Ace!
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2007, 02:56:54 PM »

Pushing here is horrible.

Raise another 2k, let the kippers come in!


James

You raise ONLY 2k here, shortie commits, then others are priced in when he does...I accept this is a style risk/reward you will accept

What is your plan first to act after the flop multi-way...bet out on the vast majority of flops?

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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2007, 03:00:08 PM »

I'd have pushed presuming shorty would come along for the ride.  If one or two others decide to call as well I'm still in good shape.  I can't see I'm folding whatever the flop, so happy to get my chips in now with as few players as possible.
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2007, 03:31:39 PM »

Id actually push myself making it look weak.

I think theres is arguement in raising to 2k, this then allows utg to shove all in and then committs the rest. When it gets back to you, you can shove 2nd time around with alot more in the pot.

If we make it anymore than 2.1k the underraise rule comes in.
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2007, 04:14:47 PM »


I'd push because I'd also push with AK.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2007, 04:30:27 PM »

insta dwell up for 2 minutes then all-in.

 

Probably the same with KK, QQ and AK as well.
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2007, 05:29:19 PM »

Sorry Tighty i wish to reply to this thread but i fear i would get banned again. I'll tell you my thoughts through MSN!
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2007, 05:33:48 PM »

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