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TightEnd
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Bet sizing...thinning the field
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June 26, 2007, 02:05:01 PM »
Blinds 200-400, 9 handed, live
You are in the BB with
a way off the money
Average Stack is 6,500 or so
UTG +2 raises to 800 leaving himself 2,600
Hijack calls 800, 7,000 back
Cut OFF Calls 800, 6,000 back
Button calls 800, 5,000 back
SB folds
Yes, its a weakish game..calling stations/people who must see flops etc
over to you
you have 10,000
3800 in pot
How much to re-raise?
Is there a case for moving all-in, to make it look like a steal push? Shortish original raiser cannot refuse the odds and no one else should call...
Anyone play it cute?
I won the hand, so no bad beat alert.
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Re: Bet sizing...thinning the field
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June 26, 2007, 02:14:53 PM »
I shove in this spot. Looks weaker than a raise to 3-4k.. Additionally there is already plenty in the pot, the original raiser has to call and one of the others will likely interpret your push as a steal and think his 8's are good.
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Re: Bet sizing...thinning the field
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June 26, 2007, 02:16:33 PM »
insta dwell up for 2 minutes then all-in.
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June 26, 2007, 02:16:44 PM »
Pushing here is horrible.
Raise another 2k, let the kippers come in!
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June 26, 2007, 02:22:17 PM »
Playing it cute is WAY too dangerous...ideally, you want to be heads up but one more taker wouldn't be too bad. Any more and you really weaken AA.
Me, I'd pot it...3,800 to go! The shortie pretty much has to call, anyone else who takes you up is pot committed and, if the worst happens and you get an ugly flop, you still have plenty of fold equity.
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Re: Bet sizing...thinning the field
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June 26, 2007, 02:25:48 PM »
Quote from: Paullie_D on June 26, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
if the worst happens and you get an ugly flop, you still have plenty of fold equity.
Eh? What does that mean please!
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Re: Bet sizing...thinning the field
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Quote from: Paullie_D on June 26, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
Playing it cute is WAY too dangerous...ideally, you want to be heads up but one more taker wouldn't be too bad. Any more and you really weaken AA.
Me, I'd pot it...3,800 to go! The shortie pretty much has to call, anyone else who takes you up is pot committed and, if the worst happens and you get an ugly flop, you still have plenty of fold equity.
I agree with the pot sized bet, I'm not folding post flop though, pushing whatever cards come down
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Re: Bet sizing...thinning the field
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June 26, 2007, 02:46:31 PM »
Quote from: Dewi_cool on June 26, 2007, 02:28:28 PM
Quote from: Paullie_D on June 26, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
Playing it cute is WAY too dangerous...ideally, you want to be heads up but one more taker wouldn't be too bad. Any more and you really weaken AA.
Me, I'd pot it...3,800 to go! The shortie pretty much has to call, anyone else who takes you up is pot committed and, if the worst happens and you get an ugly flop, you still have plenty of fold equity.
I agree with the pot sized bet, I'm not folding post flop though, pushing whatever cards come down
Really, KKx on the flop....sure you don't want to fold?....In fact, the LAST thing I want to see is a paired board except, perhaps, a flush flop where I DON'T have the Ace!
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Re: Bet sizing...thinning the field
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Quote from: Royal Flush on June 26, 2007, 02:16:44 PM
Pushing here is horrible.
Raise another 2k, let the kippers come in!
James
You raise ONLY 2k here, shortie commits, then others are priced in when he does...I accept this is a style risk/reward you will accept
What is your plan first to act after the flop multi-way...bet out on the vast majority of flops?
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Re: Bet sizing...thinning the field
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June 26, 2007, 03:00:08 PM »
I'd have pushed presuming shorty would come along for the ride. If one or two others decide to call as well I'm still in good shape. I can't see I'm folding whatever the flop, so happy to get my chips in now with as few players as possible.
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June 26, 2007, 03:31:39 PM »
Id actually push myself making it look weak.
I think theres is arguement in raising to 2k, this then allows utg to shove all in and then committs the rest. When it gets back to you, you can shove 2nd time around with alot more in the pot.
If we make it anymore than 2.1k the underraise rule comes in.
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June 26, 2007, 04:14:47 PM »
I'd push because I'd also push with AK.
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Quote from: temp0r on June 26, 2007, 02:16:33 PM
insta dwell up for 2 minutes then all-in.
Probably the same with KK, QQ and AK as well.
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June 26, 2007, 05:29:19 PM »
Sorry Tighty i wish to reply to this thread but i fear i would get banned again. I'll tell you my thoughts through MSN!
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Quote from: Royal Flush on June 26, 2007, 05:29:19 PM
Sorry Tighty i wish to reply to this thread but i fear i would get banned again. I'll tell you my thoughts through MSN!
first test passed then Flushy
maybe we can let you out of the bb house now for a few days leave.
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