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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2007, 10:50:27 PM »

I'd prefer not to trust the 'blonde spirit'.

When the prize is money and cheating is easy then people will cheat. We'd like to think that this is not likely on our friendly forum, and indeed it may be less likely than in other circumstances.

I'd prefer to remove the element of doubt by saying 'anything goes'.

a very good point, bar talking about specific hole cards.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2007, 10:52:18 PM »

I agree that it is going to be difficult to oversee everything and almost impossible to police any complaints, My thoughts are that is is advertised as a team game so in this rare format of poker anything goes ... if you want to have all your team on msn or whatever then fine, but this would need the full agreement from all captains.

As long as its a level playing field and hands/cards arent announced in the chat boxes at the table then i say ANYTHING GOES.
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2007, 10:54:35 PM »

I agree that it is going to be difficult to oversee everything and almost impossible to police any complaints, My thoughts are that is is advertised as a team game so in this rare format of poker anything goes ... if you want to have all your team on msn or whatever then fine, but this would need the full agreement from all captains.

As long as its a level playing field and hands/cards arent announced in the chat boxes at the table then i say ANYTHING GOES.

I will need to ask the real captain of our team...wardonkey.
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2007, 10:59:30 PM »

I'd prefer not to trust the 'blonde spirit'.

When the prize is money and cheating is easy then people will cheat. We'd like to think that this is not likely on our friendly forum, and indeed it may be less likely than in other circumstances.

I'd prefer to remove the element of doubt by saying 'anything goes'.

That should read 'some people'.

As long we know what acceptable and what isn't.

A blanket ban on MSN and use of PMs etc is better than saying you can use these tools as long as you don't discuss hole cards.



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« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2007, 11:02:04 PM »

If hole cards are discussed on msn between team mates, i think thats inevitable, as long as no table chat contains team messages then im fine with that.
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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2007, 11:03:54 PM »

If hole cards are discussed on msn between team mates, i think thats inevitable, as long as no table chat contains team messages then im fine with that.

thats the only way it can be truly called a 'level' playing field so we go with that then!
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2007, 11:08:01 PM »

If hole cards are discussed on msn between team mates, i think thats inevitable, as long as no table chat contains team messages then im fine with that.
Nooooooo

That can't be right, poker is a one man per hand game, want anything else then go play bridge.

I really hope that people dont use MSN, PM or any method of discussing their hole cards.

Soft play, I am afraid maybe unavoidable but blantant cheating must be scorned upon.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2007, 11:09:36 PM »

If hole cards are discussed on msn between team mates, i think thats inevitable, as long as no table chat contains team messages then im fine with that.

Nope, can't have that purely because the table draw is random.

If team A has its five players spread across five tables, and team B happens to have all five on the same table, team B has a massive advantage under the 'anything goes' rules.
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2007, 11:14:18 PM »

If hole cards are discussed on msn between team mates, i think thats inevitable, as long as no table chat contains team messages then im fine with that.
Nooooooo

That can't be right, poker is a one man per hand game, want anything else then go play bridge.

I really hope that people dont use MSN, PM or any method of discussing their hole cards.

Soft play, I am afraid maybe unavoidable but blantant cheating must be scorned upon.


 
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« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2007, 11:18:43 PM »

If hole cards are discussed on msn between team mates, i think thats inevitable, as long as no table chat contains team messages then im fine with that.
Nooooooo

That can't be right, poker is a one man per hand game, want anything else then go play bridge.

I really hope that people dont use MSN, PM or any method of discussing their hole cards.

Soft play, I am afraid maybe unavoidable but blantant cheating must be scorned upon.

im afraid i have already invited MrAlex and sent an invite to andrew even though he is totally against it.

I would be 100% behind the idea of not using it but im afraid it is inevitable at least 2-3, maybe more, people are going to use it and that gives them a HUGE advantage over the honest players so the only way to make it less of a edge is if everyone can use it.
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« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2007, 11:19:04 PM »

Im happier to go with the "everyone plays as an individual" rule, In fact i would orefer it ... BUT everyone has to buy into it and stick with it .
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« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2007, 11:20:49 PM »



That can't be right, poker is a one man per hand game, want anything else then go play bridge.

I really hope that people dont use MSN, PM or any method of discussing their hole cards.

Soft play, I am afraid maybe unavoidable but blantant cheating must be scorned upon.

The thing is poker is not a team game, there are no conventions for 'team poker'. In 'normal' poker collusion is cheating. In 'team poker' some collusion is inevitable whether it is outlawed or not, just because it is so difficult to define and police.

If we are going to play 'team poker' then we should be able to play as a team.

It needs to be looked at as a completely different game to the one we are used to playing.

It's only cheating if it's against the rules, we just need to make sure that everyone knows what the rules are.
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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2007, 12:34:05 AM »


I have said it before and I'll say it again - the only way to hold a team competition is one player from each team at a series of sitngos - points awarded for finishing places.  A final table can be added if required same format but chips based on teams accumulated points.  Teams out of contention are eliminated from the competion.

Anything else is asking for trouble.
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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2007, 12:59:52 AM »

At least you all waited untill just a few hours before hand to start discussing it as oppossed to doing something stupid like sorting it out before or having this thread a week ago so ALL concerns could be raised and addressed thumbs up

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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2007, 01:52:34 AM »

I'm with the 'anything goes' camp. It's a team competition, and should be played as such. If you get all your players on one table, yes, you get a big advantage. But then you get a big advantage if you get dealt better cards than everyone else. It's the luck of the draw, and over ten events it should come close to evening out.

There's no other fair way or clear-cut way of doing it - any restrictions will only penalise those who play honestly. I think everyone should just accept, as suggested above, that it's a completely different animal from your ordinary poker game. I don't see that as a problem at all - it should give everyone a lot more to think about and be a lot of fun.
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