Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[Colchester Kev]

I think in my list would be the Yorkshire Ripper.


Would I be alone in that?

Good shout.

[tikay]

The Hillsborough, Bradford and Heysel disasters are forever imprinted on my memory.  As a Liverpool fan, Hillsborough was the saddest day, Heysel the darkest.

Bradford, yes, that disturbed me a lot.

It's best I don't comment on Hillsborough or Heysel.

You probably won't comment, but please don't group the two together.  The causes of the two were very, very different.

It's best that I pass on that.

I'll send you some reading material.  I know you like to read and know the 'truth' on these sorts of things.

Thanks, but no thank you, & I'm not being disrespectful. My mind is fairly fixed on the causes of both.

Based on what 'evidence'?

Heysel is pretty clear cut.  I'd be interested to chat about your thoughts on Hillsborough over a cup of tea. 

If only everyone was drinking tea that day

You know me too well.

That's my final word on Hillsborough, sorry, it only leads to aggro, & I have all the aggro I need right now, & a bit to spare.

[tikay]

I think in my list would be the Yorkshire Ripper.


Would I be alone in that?

Show us your List, then, please.

That just missed my list. I thought the search for him was the part of the story that I most "enjoyed".

[TightEnd]

Top ten single events


1 9/11

2 Falklands War

3 Release of Nelson Mandela/End of Apartheid

4 Watergate

5 Berlin Wall/End of Iron Curtain

6 Moon Landing

7 Yorkshire Ripper case

8 Hillsborough

9 Removal of Mrs Thatcher by her cabinet

10 Kings Cross Disaster

[Karabiner]

Tianaman Sq

Challanger explosion

Chernoybl

Asian Tsunami

Tiananmen was one of those iconic moments - but unfortunately for many the larger importance of the demonstrations has long been forgotten.

The other three should be on tikay's list imo.

Tiananman Sq., and who could ever forget "tank man" ?

Apparently nobody knows for sure what became of him

[tikay]

Top ten single events


1 9/11

2 Falklands War

3 Release of Nelson Mandela/End of Apartheid

4 Watergate

5 Berlin Wall/End of Iron Curtain

6 Moon Landing

7 Yorkshire Ripper case

8 Hillsborough

9 Removal of Mrs Thatcher by her cabinet

10 Kings Cross Disaster

That's a great list Rich.

Removal of Thatcher? That'd be in my "Thatcher Years" thingie. Some of the best TV reporting ever seen, too.

[TightEnd]

Top ten single events


1 9/11

2 Falklands War

3 Release of Nelson Mandela/End of Apartheid

4 Watergate

5 Berlin Wall/End of Iron Curtain

6 Moon Landing

7 Yorkshire Ripper case

8 Hillsborough

9 Removal of Mrs Thatcher by her cabinet

10 Kings Cross Disaster

That's a great list Rich.

Removal of Thatcher? That'd be in my "Thatcher Years" thingie. Some of the best TV reporting ever seen, too.

I specifically put "removal of thatcher", without wanting to get into a Thatcher debate again, because the drama was so compelling..worthy of Shakespeare. She was PM from, for me the age of 12 to 25,so I grew up knowing her as PM and no one else. I think that's why it makes my top ten

[nirvana]

Brixton Riots and the other riots that swept the country in the 'Thatcher years' category ?

[tikay]

I spent a lot of time talking to Charles "Chuck" Thompson at Luton yesterday, & interviewed him twice for In-poker.

What a character!

Was on his way to Denmark, going on a Cruise which starts there, & wanted to find a poker Tourney en route. And ended up £17k better off.

He lives in Monteray (sp?), California.

Made the WSOP Main Event Final in '95. Look at this for a blast from the past.....

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=7902

And look at this beauty, in Costa Rica. Flushy, eat your heart out. He did explain the glaring oddity, by the way. Note the Entry Fee, & # of Rebuys.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=13463

And more recently, this was tidy enough.....

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/event.php?a=r&n=8791

What a character!

[bolt pp]

I haven't thought about my top 10 yet, but I would definitely have to include the 1998 Human Rights Act (Esp article 14)

This act came into force on 2 October 2000, (Just in time for me) and it made a huge difference to the lives of millions of people


Article 14 Prohibition of discrimination

The enjoyment of the rights and freedoms set forth in this Convention shall be secured without discrimination on any ground such as sex, race, colour, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, association with a national minority, property, birth or other status.


Here is the act in full.

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1998/ukpga_19980042_en_3

I think most of the human rights act is derived from the ECHR so most of the directives have been in place since the 70's, so did it really make that much difference?

[Laxie]

The Challenger is a definite on my top 10 as it would be for many of the same age group.  The reason?  I was sat in school with my classmates as we watched Christa McAuliffe, a teacher, and the others load into the space shuttle.  They'd shown interviews with her and the students she'd taught and all sorts of bio info. prior to the lanch. 

She was to be the first teacher in space and was chosen from over 11,000 applicants.  We were in awe of her.  She was just a nice teacher lady as far as we were concerned who got the luck of the draw.  But just over a minute after they took off, myself and kids in many other schools watched as she and the rest blew up...live on the telly. 

[Jon MW]

The Hillsborough, Bradford and Heysel disasters are forever imprinted on my memory.  As a Liverpool fan, Hillsborough was the saddest day, Heysel the darkest.

Bradford, yes, that disturbed me a lot.

It's best I don't comment on Hillsborough or Heysel.

You probably won't comment, but please don't group the two together.  The causes of the two were very, very different.

It's best that I pass on that.

I'll send you some reading material.  I know you like to read and know the 'truth' on these sorts of things.

Thanks, but no thank you, & I'm not being disrespectful. My mind is fairly fixed on the causes of both.

Does this mean that once you've decided on something you're not capable of changing your mind?

Are you unable to ever admit that you could ever be wrong?

[tikay]

The Hillsborough, Bradford and Heysel disasters are forever imprinted on my memory.  As a Liverpool fan, Hillsborough was the saddest day, Heysel the darkest.

Bradford, yes, that disturbed me a lot.

It's best I don't comment on Hillsborough or Heysel.

You probably won't comment, but please don't group the two together.  The causes of the two were very, very different.

It's best that I pass on that.

I'll send you some reading material.  I know you like to read and know the 'truth' on these sorts of things.

Thanks, but no thank you, & I'm not being disrespectful. My mind is fairly fixed on the causes of both.

Does this mean that once you've decided on something you're not capable of changing your mind?

Are you unable to ever admit that you could ever be wrong?

The answer to both is "no".

As I've explained several times in some cases - & this is one such case - it's better if I keep my own counsel.

[kinboshi]

The Hillsborough, Bradford and Heysel disasters are forever imprinted on my memory.  As a Liverpool fan, Hillsborough was the saddest day, Heysel the darkest.

Bradford, yes, that disturbed me a lot.

It's best I don't comment on Hillsborough or Heysel.

You probably won't comment, but please don't group the two together.  The causes of the two were very, very different.

It's best that I pass on that.

I'll send you some reading material.  I know you like to read and know the 'truth' on these sorts of things.

Thanks, but no thank you, & I'm not being disrespectful. My mind is fairly fixed on the causes of both.

Does this mean that once you've decided on something you're not capable of changing your mind?

Are you unable to ever admit that you could ever be wrong?

I think he has.  It seems very much like an indoctrinated religious belief - and no matter what evidence or rational discussion is put forward, his opinion is already cast in stone.

Which is a shame and saddening.

[kinboshi]

The Hillsborough, Bradford and Heysel disasters are forever imprinted on my memory.  As a Liverpool fan, Hillsborough was the saddest day, Heysel the darkest.

Bradford, yes, that disturbed me a lot.

It's best I don't comment on Hillsborough or Heysel.

You probably won't comment, but please don't group the two together.  The causes of the two were very, very different.

It's best that I pass on that.

I'll send you some reading material.  I know you like to read and know the 'truth' on these sorts of things.

Thanks, but no thank you, & I'm not being disrespectful. My mind is fairly fixed on the causes of both.

Based on what 'evidence'?

Heysel is pretty clear cut.  I'd be interested to chat about your thoughts on Hillsborough over a cup of tea. 

If only everyone was drinking tea that day

Same with the Spurs fans who were injured in the Leppings Lane end in 1981?

Coincidence?