Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[redsimon]

The Inland Revenue had their own suspicions and began asking Adams to explain how he had amassed his personal fortune and got his £2 million house and the valuable antiques he collected. Adams invented a range of unlikely occupations, including jeweller and public relations executive. Transcripts of the surveillance and investigations into several front companies Adams set up proved he was lying.

When he was arrested in April 2003 detectives found art and antiques valued at £500,000, £59,000 in cash and jewellery worth more than £40,000 in his home. On May 18, 2007 he was ordered to pay £4.8 million in legal fees to three law firms who had initially represented him under the UK's free legal aid scheme. He was also required to pay £800,000 in prosecution costs. A few days later on May 21, 2007 he was ordered to file reports setting out his income for the next ten years. Open case files remain untried on Operation Trinity records and rumour still exists that several further prosecution may eventually come to trial. In May, 2009 media reports suggested that his £1.6 million house was for sale as a result of the fees and costs arising from his 2007 conviction. A blog purporting to be by Ruth Adam's details the family's claims that notwithstanding the guilty plea Terence was innocent of the charge[1].

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Why didn't he just say he played poker and won lots of money? Surely gambling is the easiest form of money laundering? I'm sure there are thousands of chinese restaurants hardly turning over a penny but the owners are incredibly lucky at the tables and manage to create a lump of untaxable income from a couple of lucky spins....?

Ahem - that 'line of defence' didn't quite work for a certain 'Italian Geordie' poker player    ..........

Hmmmm, please tell me more? I was grimmed by an Italian Geordie poker player called Steph a few years back. Saw him everyday at Gala Notts for well over a year. He then grimmed a load of us and was never ever seen again.  He took a lot of money off me and was the last straw for me ever lending to people. It was pretty ridiculous actually, at one point there must have been 20+ owed me money back then. Just wound me up continuously. No stresses at all now that I say a polite but firm no.

Must be the same fella, is he inside then?

In fact Nick, THAT Steph was the Landlord of a rough-house Boozer by TBI & the City Ground IIRC. A right strange type.

The Forest Club?

Could be the hubble bar that is pretty crap.

Pub was Trent Navigation if I recollect. He once faked a robbery too. He also played online in cahoots with a geezer called Duncan and fleeced several $100's on VC Poker, but was too gobby about it and his funds got seized before he could withdraw. Nice chap!

[tikay]

The Inland Revenue had their own suspicions and began asking Adams to explain how he had amassed his personal fortune and got his £2 million house and the valuable antiques he collected. Adams invented a range of unlikely occupations, including jeweller and public relations executive. Transcripts of the surveillance and investigations into several front companies Adams set up proved he was lying.

When he was arrested in April 2003 detectives found art and antiques valued at £500,000, £59,000 in cash and jewellery worth more than £40,000 in his home. On May 18, 2007 he was ordered to pay £4.8 million in legal fees to three law firms who had initially represented him under the UK's free legal aid scheme. He was also required to pay £800,000 in prosecution costs. A few days later on May 21, 2007 he was ordered to file reports setting out his income for the next ten years. Open case files remain untried on Operation Trinity records and rumour still exists that several further prosecution may eventually come to trial. In May, 2009 media reports suggested that his £1.6 million house was for sale as a result of the fees and costs arising from his 2007 conviction. A blog purporting to be by Ruth Adam's details the family's claims that notwithstanding the guilty plea Terence was innocent of the charge[1].

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Why didn't he just say he played poker and won lots of money? Surely gambling is the easiest form of money laundering? I'm sure there are thousands of chinese restaurants hardly turning over a penny but the owners are incredibly lucky at the tables and manage to create a lump of untaxable income from a couple of lucky spins....?

Ahem - that 'line of defence' didn't quite work for a certain 'Italian Geordie' poker player    ..........

Hmmmm, please tell me more? I was grimmed by an Italian Geordie poker player called Steph a few years back. Saw him everyday at Gala Notts for well over a year. He then grimmed a load of us and was never ever seen again.  He took a lot of money off me and was the last straw for me ever lending to people. It was pretty ridiculous actually, at one point there must have been 20+ owed me money back then. Just wound me up continuously. No stresses at all now that I say a polite but firm no.

Must be the same fella, is he inside then?

In fact Nick, THAT Steph was the Landlord of a rough-house Boozer by TBI & the City Ground IIRC. A right strange type.

The Forest Club?

Could be the hubble bar that is pretty crap.

Pub was Trent Navigation if I recollect. He once faked a robbery too. He also played online in cahoots with a geezer called Duncan and fleeced several $100's on VC Poker, but was too gobby about it and his funds got seized before he could withdraw. Nice chap!

THAT'S the one, good spot Simon.

[Longy]

The Inland Revenue had their own suspicions and began asking Adams to explain how he had amassed his personal fortune and got his £2 million house and the valuable antiques he collected. Adams invented a range of unlikely occupations, including jeweller and public relations executive. Transcripts of the surveillance and investigations into several front companies Adams set up proved he was lying.

When he was arrested in April 2003 detectives found art and antiques valued at £500,000, £59,000 in cash and jewellery worth more than £40,000 in his home. On May 18, 2007 he was ordered to pay £4.8 million in legal fees to three law firms who had initially represented him under the UK's free legal aid scheme. He was also required to pay £800,000 in prosecution costs. A few days later on May 21, 2007 he was ordered to file reports setting out his income for the next ten years. Open case files remain untried on Operation Trinity records and rumour still exists that several further prosecution may eventually come to trial. In May, 2009 media reports suggested that his £1.6 million house was for sale as a result of the fees and costs arising from his 2007 conviction. A blog purporting to be by Ruth Adam's details the family's claims that notwithstanding the guilty plea Terence was innocent of the charge[1].

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Why didn't he just say he played poker and won lots of money? Surely gambling is the easiest form of money laundering? I'm sure there are thousands of chinese restaurants hardly turning over a penny but the owners are incredibly lucky at the tables and manage to create a lump of untaxable income from a couple of lucky spins....?

Ahem - that 'line of defence' didn't quite work for a certain 'Italian Geordie' poker player    ..........

Hmmmm, please tell me more? I was grimmed by an Italian Geordie poker player called Steph a few years back. Saw him everyday at Gala Notts for well over a year. He then grimmed a load of us and was never ever seen again.  He took a lot of money off me and was the last straw for me ever lending to people. It was pretty ridiculous actually, at one point there must have been 20+ owed me money back then. Just wound me up continuously. No stresses at all now that I say a polite but firm no.

Must be the same fella, is he inside then?

In fact Nick, THAT Steph was the Landlord of a rough-house Boozer by TBI & the City Ground IIRC. A right strange type.

The Forest Club?

Could be the hubble bar that is pretty crap.

Pub was Trent Navigation if I recollect. He once faked a robbery too. He also played online in cahoots with a geezer called Duncan and fleeced several $100's on VC Poker, but was too gobby about it and his funds got seized before he could withdraw. Nice chap!

THAT'S the one, good spot Simon.

That is near the Notts County ground, north of the river. Fancy you not knowing where pubs are!

[rex008]

Bugger. 3 hours away, 5 pages of thread, we need to get back to interesting stuff .

I am utterly fascinated by the LHC at CERN. I mean, it's BIG beyondf belief, yes? I want to read every book ever written about it, & I will. But I'm yet to be convinced that they DO actually whizz particles round inside it a quillion times per nana-second, & cause them to collide. I mean, how would we ever know if they were telling the truth? Supposing after they built it, it never worked at all? Would they dare tell the Governments who paid for it, "oops, we messed up". Or would they say, "oh yes, ahem, it's working a treat, trust us, we are scientists, so we could not tell a porkie".

Most useful factoid about LHC: When up to full energy (7 TeV, has run at about 1TeV so far), each beam will have the same energy as a British Aircraft Carrier doing nearly 12knots. But it's ok, if something goes wrong its dumped into a 7m long graphite block encased in 750 tons of concrete and water cooled. So that's ok then  .

And it's not the first ring to collide particles. They've been building them for about 30 years (IIRC), so they've had plenty of practice. This is just the biggest one (so far).

Oh, and you can keep an eye on the LHC here.

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[tikay]

Bugger. 3 hours away, 5 pages of thread, we need to get back to interesting stuff .

I am utterly fascinated by the LHC at CERN. I mean, it's BIG beyondf belief, yes? I want to read every book ever written about it, & I will. But I'm yet to be convinced that they DO actually whizz particles round inside it a quillion times per nana-second, & cause them to collide. I mean, how would we ever know if they were telling the truth? Supposing after they built it, it never worked at all? Would they dare tell the Governments who paid for it, "oops, we messed up". Or would they say, "oh yes, ahem, it's working a treat, trust us, we are scientists, so we could not tell a porkie".

Most useful factoid about LHC: When up to full energy (7 TeV, has run at about 1TeV so far), each beam will have the same energy as a British Aircraft Carrier doing nearly 12knots. But it's ok, if something goes wrong its dumped into a 7m long graphite block encased in 750 tons of concrete and water cooled. So that's ok then  .

And it's not the first ring to collide particles. They've been building them for about 30 years (IIRC), so they've had plenty of practice. This is just the biggest one (so far).

Oh, and you can keep an eye on the LHC here.

.

Yes, I read about the concrete blocks in a Concrete Society article somewhere.

Theoretically.....if I stuck my hand inside that tubey thing, would I feel anything?

I bet I would not, & the Boffins would say,.....

"ah well, no, you can't feel, see or touch quorks & protons & stuff like that, don't be silly".

"Oh, I see".

"Good lad"......

How many "beams" (allegedly) circulate at the same time, in each direction?

[tikay]

Bugger. 3 hours away, 5 pages of thread, we need to get back to interesting stuff .

I am utterly fascinated by the LHC at CERN. I mean, it's BIG beyondf belief, yes? I want to read every book ever written about it, & I will. But I'm yet to be convinced that they DO actually whizz particles round inside it a quillion times per nana-second, & cause them to collide. I mean, how would we ever know if they were telling the truth? Supposing after they built it, it never worked at all? Would they dare tell the Governments who paid for it, "oops, we messed up". Or would they say, "oh yes, ahem, it's working a treat, trust us, we are scientists, so we could not tell a porkie".

Most useful factoid about LHC: When up to full energy (7 TeV, has run at about 1TeV so far), each beam will have the same energy as a British Aircraft Carrier doing nearly 12knots. But it's ok, if something goes wrong its dumped into a 7m long graphite block encased in 750 tons of concrete and water cooled. So that's ok then  .

And it's not the first ring to collide particles. They've been building them for about 30 years (IIRC), so they've had plenty of practice. This is just the biggest one (so far).

Oh, and you can keep an eye on the LHC here.
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Lol at that - rather scary!

[tikay]

Bugger. 3 hours away, 5 pages of thread, we need to get back to interesting stuff .

I am utterly fascinated by the LHC at CERN. I mean, it's BIG beyondf belief, yes? I want to read every book ever written about it, & I will. But I'm yet to be convinced that they DO actually whizz particles round inside it a quillion times per nana-second, & cause them to collide. I mean, how would we ever know if they were telling the truth? Supposing after they built it, it never worked at all? Would they dare tell the Governments who paid for it, "oops, we messed up". Or would they say, "oh yes, ahem, it's working a treat, trust us, we are scientists, so we could not tell a porkie".

Most useful factoid about LHC: When up to full energy (7 TeV, has run at about 1TeV so far), each beam will have the same energy as a British Aircraft Carrier doing nearly 12knots. But it's ok, if something goes wrong its dumped into a 7m long graphite block encased in 750 tons of concrete and water cooled. So that's ok then  .

And it's not the first ring to collide particles. They've been building them for about 30 years (IIRC), so they've had plenty of practice. This is just the biggest one (so far).

Oh, and you can keep an eye on the LHC here.

.

Yes, I read about the concrete blocks in a Concrete Society article somewhere.

Theoretically.....if I stuck my hand inside that tubey thing, would I feel anything?

I bet I would not, & the Boffins would say,.....

"ah well, no, you can't feel, see or touch quorks & protons & stuff like that, don't be silly".

"Oh, I see".

"Good lad"......

How many "beams" (allegedly) circulate at the same time, in each direction?

We got a bit off track somewhere today. We were going along nicely, but then I upset Matt & Lover Boy boshi, & they both got the lip on with me over a little curve-ball I slung in ("true Gentlemen"), so some diversionary Posts were needed. They soon forget.

We can get back to serious stuff now.

[lazaroonie]

interesting story about johnny cash and 'sunday morning coming down'. it was written by kris kristofferson, and he was sure he wanted johhny cash to sing it. at the time he was in the us air force so took a helicopter and landed it in cash's garden in his house in hendersonville tennessee. at the time kris wasnt in anyway a 'star' but still had the balls to go and knock on jc's door and say'im going to play this song for you'...

after cash died, his house was sold to one of the gibb brothers (bee gees), but the house sadly burnt down a couple of years ago, in a mysterious fire.

[kinboshi]

Still here.

[Laxie]

Still here.

Behave!

[tikay]

Oops, Chili is on thread.

Time to go time.

[tikay]

interesting story about johnny cash and 'sunday morning coming down'. it was written by kris kristofferson, and he was sure he wanted johhny cash to sing it. at the time he was in the us air force so took a helicopter and landed it in cash's garden in his house in hendersonville tennessee. at the time kris wasnt in anyway a 'star' but still had the balls to go and knock on jc's door and say'im going to play this song for you'...

after cash died, his house was sold to one of the gibb brothers (bee gees), but the house sadly burnt down a couple of years ago, in a mysterious fire.

The song seems made for JC, it just rolls off the tongue for him.

[Dingdell]

Bugger. 3 hours away, 5 pages of thread, we need to get back to interesting stuff .

I am utterly fascinated by the LHC at CERN. I mean, it's BIG beyondf belief, yes? I want to read every book ever written about it, & I will. But I'm yet to be convinced that they DO actually whizz particles round inside it a quillion times per nana-second, & cause them to collide. I mean, how would we ever know if they were telling the truth? Supposing after they built it, it never worked at all? Would they dare tell the Governments who paid for it, "oops, we messed up". Or would they say, "oh yes, ahem, it's working a treat, trust us, we are scientists, so we could not tell a porkie".

Most useful factoid about LHC: When up to full energy (7 TeV, has run at about 1TeV so far), each beam will have the same energy as a British Aircraft Carrier doing nearly 12knots. But it's ok, if something goes wrong its dumped into a 7m long graphite block encased in 750 tons of concrete and water cooled. So that's ok then  .

And it's not the first ring to collide particles. They've been building them for about 30 years (IIRC), so they've had plenty of practice. This is just the biggest one (so far).

Oh, and you can keep an eye on the LHC here.
.

Lol at that - rather scary!

Can I just say that I nearly peed myself - I am nervous about all this as it is - ffs.

[pokefast]

I don't get all this stuff,so can someone please humour me and explain what there is to be nervous about?

[Chili]

Tikay, kiss my well fed ass!!

In answer to Flushy, I'd estimate about January 2nd!