Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[tikay]

Anyway, that brightened up a fairly quiet afternoon.

I was gonna Post a bunch of "Pictures from my Past", but you may have been spared that now. They are so cringeworthy the mood needs to be "just so".

[Simon Galloway]

The soft playing bit that backfires is when you are in a pot 3way on the turn, you are sandwiched in the middle and have to fold to a pot-sized bet from Mr X with Mrs X having to act behind you ~ then they say "ah well its heads up on the river, let's check it down."

It is only heads up because of the implied threat of collusion/soft play.

Flip side, there isn't a button on PokerStars called "going home money" so comparing online practice to live practice rarely makes sense.  Perhaps why that's why you get so many spotty oiks asking to see a mucked hand so regularly live.

Compassionate people that have just taken £2k off a regular might make a redic loose call for £100 /flash a pivotal card / give him going home money.  Pro players might do the same, but for less altruistic reasons.

[gatso]

It's a really weird one Tikay. I go up to Notts most months to play the DTD £300 and always stay at Stu's. He's been incredibly hospitable to me considering we've met through blonde but I now consider Stu a very good friend. When playing in cash games against one another it doesn't bother either of us if we take the lot off the other person. Same with many of my other friends.

However, a while ago when I was playing a live cash game against a much younger Greek friend of my cousin I did a 'Tikay'. This kid was exactly me when I was his age about 18 and I could see him going down the same route I was, about to ruin things for himself for a while because of gambling.

He was obviously a bad inexperienced player, much like I probably was back in the day (will wait for someone to make the 'you still are joke'). Eventually we get into a pot where he's bet £30 into about £40 on a flop of   with an obvious overpair. I call and make the disguised nuts on the   turn and lead into him for £400, which was his whole stack having sat with around £250. I gave it all the usual speechplay telling the kid I told the kid to pass and that I didn't want his money etc etc whilst mentally fistpumping. He still thought for a few minutes and begrudgingly folded KK. Obviously I showed him my hand so he thought I was a nice guy even though I was secretly really gutted. It was wrong of me to have played the hand that way, expecially when I probably cost myself about £250 doing that but I wouldn't have felt comfortable doing anything else.

[tikay]

The soft playing bit that backfires is when you are in a pot 3way on the turn, you are sandwiched in the middle and have to fold to a pot-sized bet from Mr X with Mrs X having to act behind you ~ then they say "ah well its heads up on the river, let's check it down."

It is only heads up because of the implied threat of collusion/soft play.
Flip side, there isn't a button on PokerStars called "going home money" so comparing online practice to live practice rarely makes sense.  Perhaps why that's why you get so many spotty oiks asking to see a mucked hand so regularly live.

Compassionate people that have just taken £2k off a regular might make a redic loose call for £100 /flash a pivotal card / give him going home money.  Pro players might do the same, but for less altruistic reasons.

Yes Simon. I know that. It was not three-handed & no one was squeezed out on the turn. You know I would not do that, & so does Longy. It's a debate for a debate's sake I think.

"...give him going home money"......

Lol, that's another. Try explaining THAT one to the serious boys! I've done it 100 times, so have you. Best not fess up on here though, you'll get mullered. Different age groups, different values, we just see things differently.

[GreekStein]

It's a really weird one Tikay. I go up to Notts most months to play the DTD £300 and always stay at Stu's. He's been incredibly hospitable to me considering we've met through blonde but I now consider Stu a very good friend. When playing in cash games against one another it doesn't bother either of us if we take the lot off the other person. Same with many of my other friends.

However, a while ago when I was playing a live cash game against a much younger Greek friend of my cousin I did a 'Tikay'. This kid was exactly me when I was his age about 18 and I could see him going down the same route I was, about to ruin things for himself for a while because of gambling.

He was obviously a bad inexperienced player, much like I probably was back in the day (will wait for someone to make the 'you still are joke'). Eventually we get into a pot where he's bet £30 into about £40 on a flop of   with an obvious overpair. I call and make the disguised nuts on the   turn and lead into him for £400, which was his whole stack having sat with around £250. I gave it all the usual speechplay telling the kid I told the kid to pass and that I didn't want his money etc etc whilst mentally fistpumping. He still thought for a few minutes and begrudgingly folded KK. Obviously I showed him my hand so he thought I was a nice guy even though I was secretly really gutted. It was wrong of me to have played the hand that way, expecially when I probably cost myself about £250 doing that but I wouldn't have felt comfortable doing anything else.

Pretty gay edit Gatso.

[Simon Galloway]

sigh - I've just been bracketed in Tikay's age group, sickest of rubs.

[gatso]

This was a very unusual & odd situation, as I've explained at length. If some peeps wanna label me as a colluder, or suggest I acted improperly, fine, let them. The facts are there for all to see.

you're such a drama queen kendall. where were you accused of being a colluder?

[GreekStein]

Gotta say I'm actually with Tikay on this one Longy.

Nooooooooooooooooo!

Swim against the tide?

Very uncool that, you know.

It's a really weird one Tikay. I go up to Notts most months to play the DTD £300 and always stay at Stu's. He's been incredibly hospitable to me considering we've met through blonde but I now consider Stu a very good friend. When playing in cash games against one another it doesn't bother either of us if we take the lot off the other person. Same with many of my other friends.

However, a while ago when I was playing a live cash game against a much younger Greek friend of my cousin I did a 'Tikay'. This kid was exactly me when I was his age about 18 and I could see him going down the same route I was, about to ruin things for himself for a while because of gambling.

He was obviously a bad inexperienced player, much like I probably was back in the day (will wait for someone to make the 'you still are joke'). Eventually we get into a pot where he's bet £30 into about £40 on a flop of   with an obvious overpair. I call and make the disguised nuts on the   turn and lead into him for £400, which was his whole stack having sat with around £250. I told the kid to pass and that I didn't want his money etc etc. He still thought for a few minutes and begrudgingly folded KK. Obviously I showed him my hand. It was wrong of me to have played the hand that way, expecially when I probably cost myself about £250 doing that but I wouldn't have felt comfortable doing anything else.

Noted Cos.

You'd think by this Thread I don't play hard-ball against my friends in Poker!

Well ask Thewy, Red, Chili, Ding, Ralphy, Orford, LML, Chomps, we get our money in & do our best to bust each other without fail, every single time. It was suggested the Shrerwdies would "turn in their graves", I don't think so, nobody plays as hard against my close pals as I do.

This was a very unusual & odd situation, as I've explained at length. If some peeps wanna label me as a colluder, or suggest I acted improperly, fine, let them. The facts are there for all to see.

Yeah me too, I'm just saying I agree that occasionally there can be a circumstance where someone might feel it right to let the live one go.

[Karabiner]

from five minutes poking about online it seems like the etymology of the 'demaillion' bit is unknown, but this looks like the most likely explanation:

The first part of the word, tatter, seems to derive from the hypothesised Old Norse word *taturr, which appears in Icelandic as toturr, and Norwegian dialects as totra. The Old French variation is taterles meaning “rags.” In fact, all these versions refer to rags, scraps, and jagged items.

The second part is thought to be a derivative of the Old French, maillot, which refers to swaddling clothes or simply long clothes, according to Spiers and Surenne’s 1863 French and English pronouncing dictionary.  Thus, you get the whole flavor of someone in tattered and torn clothes.

i find language fascinating. it is my great regret that i didnt continue my language studies at uni (i was told i had a natural aptitude for them).

speaking of interesting language bits and bobs my own surname 'Tochel' is, as i understand the hebrew word for 'Tree' (although our family has no connection with hebrew or judaism. contextually it appears in the torah as part of the phrase 'achol tochel' which means 'all the trees in the garden', This was God telling Adam to 'eat freely'.

some people might find that appropriate

Someone must have slightly misinformed you Patrick although your end result is accurate.

"Achol" would be "ha kol" in Modern Hebrew which means "everything", and "tochel" would be "tochal" which is the imperative form of "ochel" which means either "food" or in this instance "to eat". So the tranlation of "achol tochel" would be something like "Everything here, you may eat".

A parent might say "tochal" to a child meaning "eat up"

[tikay]

This was a very unusual & odd situation, as I've explained at length. If some peeps wanna suggest I acted improperly, fine, let them. The facts are there for all to see.

you're such a drama queen kendall. where were you accused of being a colluder?

FMP. I was wrong in suggesting that.

[tikay]

Prompted by a PM just in which amused me greatly, it occurs to me that I never got round to going through my Criminal record, as discussed a few weeks back.

That'll cause some sport when I work through that.

[Simon Galloway]

 I wish I could tell more tales, but it's best I don't - the naivety of the poker public to what's what in some areas is astounding!

Time for some of this imo.

[tikay]

 I wish I could tell more tales, but it's best I don't - the naivety of the poker public to what's what in some areas is astounding!

Time for some of this imo.

Stop stirring Mr Galloway!

I know you share a common knowledge with myself & others of the State of Denmark right now. What a state it is, too.

[Simon Galloway]

 I wish I could tell more tales, but it's best I don't - the naivety of the poker public to what's what in some areas is astounding!

Time for some of this imo.

Stop stirring Mr Galloway!

I know you share a common knowledge with myself & others of the State of Denmark right now. What a state it is, too.

Redic PSBR, incompetent treasury, extremely inneffective controls.

Your turn.

[MANTIS01]

Excellent last few pages, lol @ "you're such a drama queen kendall". Celtic did a good post and set the scene and the conditions perfectly; resulting in a simple difference of opinions about how people approach a game. It's not natural to play poker in a charitable way as I said earlier. But then again the ability to offer compassion and empathy to others is what separates humans from animals. I've seen loads of football teams score into their own net to redress some injustice involving their opponents. The players think the conditions are just so to step outside the rules and think like people not robots. Thus it is ok for three amigos to fock lol Luton G Casino rules in this spot.

Bobby did a good post about the Grand Slam as well. I'm a bit of a Tiger fan and I'm really not shocked by the revelations. If you could just pick up the phone and have a couple of hot women and a case of cold beer waiting for you when your private jet touches down in Miami after a taxing round of golf you'd be tempted. You'd think feck me my life is so amazing right now I can hardly believe it. Then you'd learn what's important in life and come back better and stronger and more mature. I think the Gran Slam is possible at some stage in the future.