Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[mondatoo]

Tikay,

I may be wrong but you may have mistook Keith's post,obviously he can answer for himself and will but here is my thoughts for what they're worth.I noticed that you where looking on the thread for a while the other day and was hoping you would post,that was down to the respect we have for you,well at least I do and thought your posting would somehow maybe make the situation better.But really there's nothing you or anyone can say to make this any better.It is a really bad situation and I don't have any clever quotes to pick from but all I would say is money will come and money will go but the things that truly matter you'll hopefully keep forever.

Loving the post above by the way.I hope I'm still going strong at it when I'm 40 odd

Well if I did, then, I apologise.

He Posted that he was disappointed I had not commented, & he wrote to me to say "I hope my Post did not offend you, but I think some comment by you would help" or words to that effect.

So I wrote to him at length, & replied at length on Thread.

One comment is already in - (no idea what it means) - but I sense getting dragged into it & it will be like a sponge, & absorb endless amounts of time.

I've made, to genuine prople, who I respect, & previous to today, offers of practical help to move the thing forward. I'm not into all this vitriolic nonsense, or setting up daft Facebook pages, I just suggested what I thought was the only way forward. And, FWIW, "dispute resolution" was my party trick for the best part of 25 y ears. I don't expect my view to be taken on board, & I'm not sure what else I can do, to be honest.

I'm very sorry for those who have suffered financially, & would like to help in some way. But because I have not gone all over Facebook & Twitter hooting & hollering about it, does not mean I do not care, or have not done anything.

How is that Bankroll Challenge of yours going - still doing it? Making money?

I hope you & yours are well, & it'd be good to see you soon.

I'm not even registered for facebook or twitter,for want of a better way of putting it, I don't believe in it.

It's going well thanks,still doing it yeah,not sure if you have read but I've gone part-time at work to do it more on a full-time basis.I would suggest I'm similar to you in a way although nowhere near as committed but I've always strived to be good at something,especially something that I actually like and I'm not sure how long it'll last for but I'm going to keep enjoying it while it does.For that I owe a lot to James"MC",as well as Alex who previously gave me a lot of help.Its funny because when both of them have been coaching me they've both said they've got other students who they tell what they need to do to improve but they don't listen.I can't comprehend that as in my mind if somebody who I know is successful at what they're talking about I'm guna make sure I listen.I've posted on my thread a couple times that I'm on a certain position on a leaderboard,but that honestly is nothing to do with ego,it's just so rewarding to think wow I'm ranked in that position so I must actually be good at this.I'm not a confident person to start with and confidence is so important in Poker but one or two bad sessions and it's easy for me to start doubting myself but I can look at that and then it helps to keep the doubt away.I didn't mean to ramble on so much there lol your thread seems to bring that out in me lol.

It would be good to catch up,I might have to hijack one of your Sky gigs soon

Take care and hopefully you'll get chance to be back around again sound,and under better circumstances.

[bobby1]

Tikay,

I may be wrong but you may have mistook Keith's post,obviously he can answer for himself and will but here is my thoughts for what they're worth.I noticed that you where looking on the thread for a while the other day and was hoping you would post,that was down to the respect we have for you,well at least I do and thought your posting would somehow maybe make the situation better.But really there's nothing you or anyone can say to make this any better.It is a really bad situation and I don't have any clever quotes to pick from but all I would say is money will come and money will go but the things that truly matter you'll hopefully keep forever.

Loving the post above by the way.I hope I'm still going strong at it when I'm 40 odd

Well if I did, then, I apologise.

He Posted that he was disappointed I had not commented, & he wrote to me to say "I hope my Post did not offend you, but I think some comment by you would help" or words to that effect.

So I wrote to him at length, & replied at length on Thread.

One comment is already in - (no idea what it means) - but I sense getting dragged into it & it will be like a sponge, & absorb endless amounts of time.

I've made, to genuine prople, who I respect, & previous to today, offers of practical help to move the thing forward. I'm not into all this vitriolic nonsense, or setting up daft Facebook pages, I just suggested what I thought was the only way forward. And, FWIW, "dispute resolution" was my party trick for the best part of 25 y ears. I don't expect my view to be taken on board, & I'm not sure what else I can do, to be honest.

I'm very sorry for those who have suffered financially, & would like to help in some way. But because I have not gone all over Facebook & Twitter hooting & hollering about it, does not mean I do not care, or have not done anything.

But I think I take your point, & you may be right. It's fair to say that I have a slightly different perspective to it than most might. Old people often do, either because they see things clearer, or because they have alzheimers.

For now, fair to say, the story was a jaw-dropper, but I thought the reaction to the story was even more astonishing. I have an obserssion with "stories about stories", & the nature of human reaction to them. I'm sending the baying mob round to Tony Hawward after they've done with Blatch, so they can beat the shit out of him, too - the bounder spent Sunday - Fathers day - with his son. Shocking.
 
How is that Bankroll Challenge of yours going - still doing it? Making money?

I hope you & yours are well, & it'd be good to see you soon.

hi Tony,

Commenting on the Blatch situation wouldnt have made a blind bit of difference to the grand scheme of things becasuse nobody really knows the full extent of what has gone on. The reason people may have wanted you to post is you are still the daddy of the forum, it was your baby and when we need reassuring your word can go a long way

Take it as a huge compliment that people would have liked you to comment because thats what it is. i hope the dark areas you have around you are only minor things and can be solved soon mate.

xx

[tikay]

Tikay,

I may be wrong but you may have mistook Keith's post,obviously he can answer for himself and will but here is my thoughts for what they're worth.I noticed that you where looking on the thread for a while the other day and was hoping you would post,that was down to the respect we have for you,well at least I do and thought your posting would somehow maybe make the situation better.But really there's nothing you or anyone can say to make this any better.It is a really bad situation and I don't have any clever quotes to pick from but all I would say is money will come and money will go but the things that truly matter you'll hopefully keep forever.

Loving the post above by the way.I hope I'm still going strong at it when I'm 40 odd

Well if I did, then, I apologise.

He Posted that he was disappointed I had not commented, & he wrote to me to say "I hope my Post did not offend you, but I think some comment by you would help" or words to that effect.

So I wrote to him at length, & replied at length on Thread.

One comment is already in - (no idea what it means) - but I sense getting dragged into it & it will be like a sponge, & absorb endless amounts of time.

I've made, to genuine prople, who I respect, & previous to today, offers of practical help to move the thing forward. I'm not into all this vitriolic nonsense, or setting up daft Facebook pages, I just suggested what I thought was the only way forward. And, FWIW, "dispute resolution" was my party trick for the best part of 25 y ears. I don't expect my view to be taken on board, & I'm not sure what else I can do, to be honest.

I'm very sorry for those who have suffered financially, & would like to help in some way. But because I have not gone all over Facebook & Twitter hooting & hollering about it, does not mean I do not care, or have not done anything.

How is that Bankroll Challenge of yours going - still doing it? Making money?

I hope you & yours are well, & it'd be good to see you soon.

I'm not even registered for facebook or twitter,for want of a better way of putting it, I don't believe in it.

It's going well thanks,still doing it yeah,not sure if you have read but I've gone part-time at work to do it more on a full-time basis.I would suggest I'm similar to you in a way although nowhere near as committed but I've always strived to be good at something,especially something that I actually like and I'm not sure how long it'll last for but I'm going to keep enjoying it while it does.For that I owe a lot to James"MC",as well as Alex who previously gave me a lot of help.Its funny because when both of them have been coaching me they've both said they've got other students who they tell what they need to do to improve but they don't listen.I can't comprehend that as in my mind if somebody who I know is successful at what they're talking about I'm guna make sure I listen.I've posted on my thread a couple times that I'm on a certain position on a leaderboard,but that honestly is nothing to do with ego,it's just so rewarding to think wow I'm ranked in that position so I must actually be good at this.I'm not a confident person to start with and confidence is so important in Poker but one or two bad sessions and it's easy for me to start doubting myself but I can look at that and then it helps to keep the doubt away.I didn't mean to ramble on so much there lol your thread seems to bring that out in me lol.

It would be good to catch up,I might have to hijack one of your Sky gigs soon

Take care and hopefully you'll get chance to be back around again sound,and under better circumstances.

You should see the Facebook page they put up to out Blatch - I know I'll regret admitting this, but when I saw some of the names who had Posted on it, I nearly fainted. £120k? They are well north of that! That's what i mean when I say "story about the story". Still, blonde traffic is through the roof, but I'm not holding my breath hoping to see it translate into DTD Card-Room Revenue, it's just the "ooh, fight fight fight" gang I guess.

I think, on the whole, that seeing both sides of a situation - not agreeing necessarily with one or the other - helps to solve things though. You can't outsmart anyone if you can't see what is in their mind.

Delighted to hear you are making it pay. If you enjoy it, & brerak even, that's a result, & anything more your doing just grand.

[celtic]

So what have you been upto in the last 3 months then? Day by day acct please ktnxbye.

[mondatoo]

Tikay,

I may be wrong but you may have mistook Keith's post,obviously he can answer for himself and will but here is my thoughts for what they're worth.I noticed that you where looking on the thread for a while the other day and was hoping you would post,that was down to the respect we have for you,well at least I do and thought your posting would somehow maybe make the situation better.But really there's nothing you or anyone can say to make this any better.It is a really bad situation and I don't have any clever quotes to pick from but all I would say is money will come and money will go but the things that truly matter you'll hopefully keep forever.

Loving the post above by the way.I hope I'm still going strong at it when I'm 40 odd

Well if I did, then, I apologise.

He Posted that he was disappointed I had not commented, & he wrote to me to say "I hope my Post did not offend you, but I think some comment by you would help" or words to that effect.

So I wrote to him at length, & replied at length on Thread.

One comment is already in - (no idea what it means) - but I sense getting dragged into it & it will be like a sponge, & absorb endless amounts of time.

I've made, to genuine prople, who I respect, & previous to today, offers of practical help to move the thing forward. I'm not into all this vitriolic nonsense, or setting up daft Facebook pages, I just suggested what I thought was the only way forward. And, FWIW, "dispute resolution" was my party trick for the best part of 25 y ears. I don't expect my view to be taken on board, & I'm not sure what else I can do, to be honest.

I'm very sorry for those who have suffered financially, & would like to help in some way. But because I have not gone all over Facebook & Twitter hooting & hollering about it, does not mean I do not care, or have not done anything.

How is that Bankroll Challenge of yours going - still doing it? Making money?

I hope you & yours are well, & it'd be good to see you soon.

I'm not even registered for facebook or twitter,for want of a better way of putting it, I don't believe in it.

It's going well thanks,still doing it yeah,not sure if you have read but I've gone part-time at work to do it more on a full-time basis.I would suggest I'm similar to you in a way although nowhere near as committed but I've always strived to be good at something,especially something that I actually like and I'm not sure how long it'll last for but I'm going to keep enjoying it while it does.For that I owe a lot to James"MC",as well as Alex who previously gave me a lot of help.Its funny because when both of them have been coaching me they've both said they've got other students who they tell what they need to do to improve but they don't listen.I can't comprehend that as in my mind if somebody who I know is successful at what they're talking about I'm guna make sure I listen.I've posted on my thread a couple times that I'm on a certain position on a leaderboard,but that honestly is nothing to do with ego,it's just so rewarding to think wow I'm ranked in that position so I must actually be good at this.I'm not a confident person to start with and confidence is so important in Poker but one or two bad sessions and it's easy for me to start doubting myself but I can look at that and then it helps to keep the doubt away.I didn't mean to ramble on so much there lol your thread seems to bring that out in me lol.

It would be good to catch up,I might have to hijack one of your Sky gigs soon

Take care and hopefully you'll get chance to be back around again sound,and under better circumstances.

You should see the Facebook page they put up to out Blatch - I know I'll regret admitting this, but when I saw some of the names who had Posted on it, I nearly fainted. £120k? They are well north of that! That's what i mean when I say "story about the story". Still, blonde traffic is through the roof, but I'm not holding my breath hoping to see it translate into DTD Card-Room Revenue, it's just the "ooh, fight fight fight" gang I guess.

I think, on the whole, that seeing both sides of a situation - not agreeing necessarily with one or the other - helps to solve things though. You can't outsmart anyone if you can't see what is in their mind.

Delighted to hear you are making it pay. If you enjoy it, & brerak even, that's a result, & anything more your doing just grand.

Well hopefully not breakeven or I'd have to go back and do real work 

[tikay]

Tikay,

I may be wrong but you may have mistook Keith's post,obviously he can answer for himself and will but here is my thoughts for what they're worth.I noticed that you where looking on the thread for a while the other day and was hoping you would post,that was down to the respect we have for you,well at least I do and thought your posting would somehow maybe make the situation better.But really there's nothing you or anyone can say to make this any better.It is a really bad situation and I don't have any clever quotes to pick from but all I would say is money will come and money will go but the things that truly matter you'll hopefully keep forever.

Loving the post above by the way.I hope I'm still going strong at it when I'm 40 odd

Well if I did, then, I apologise.

He Posted that he was disappointed I had not commented, & he wrote to me to say "I hope my Post did not offend you, but I think some comment by you would help" or words to that effect.

So I wrote to him at length, & replied at length on Thread.

One comment is already in - (no idea what it means) - but I sense getting dragged into it & it will be like a sponge, & absorb endless amounts of time.

I've made, to genuine prople, who I respect, & previous to today, offers of practical help to move the thing forward. I'm not into all this vitriolic nonsense, or setting up daft Facebook pages, I just suggested what I thought was the only way forward. And, FWIW, "dispute resolution" was my party trick for the best part of 25 y ears. I don't expect my view to be taken on board, & I'm not sure what else I can do, to be honest.

I'm very sorry for those who have suffered financially, & would like to help in some way. But because I have not gone all over Facebook & Twitter hooting & hollering about it, does not mean I do not care, or have not done anything.

But I think I take your point, & you may be right. It's fair to say that I have a slightly different perspective to it than most might. Old people often do, either because they see things clearer, or because they have alzheimers.

For now, fair to say, the story was a jaw-dropper, but I thought the reaction to the story was even more astonishing. I have an obserssion with "stories about stories", & the nature of human reaction to them. I'm sending the baying mob round to Tony Hawward after they've done with Blatch, so they can beat the shit out of him, too - the bounder spent Sunday - Fathers day - with his son. Shocking.
 
How is that Bankroll Challenge of yours going - still doing it? Making money?

I hope you & yours are well, & it'd be good to see you soon.

hi Tony,

Commenting on the Blatch situation wouldnt have made a blind bit of difference to the grand scheme of things becasuse nobody really knows the full extent of what has gone on. The reason people may have wanted you to post is you are still the daddy of the forum, it was your baby and when we need reassuring your word can go a long way

Take it as a huge compliment that people would have liked you to comment because thats what it is. i hope the dark areas you have around you are only minor things and can be solved soon mate.

xx

But one man DOES Phil - though there is NO chance of battering the answers out of him via vitriolic comments from faceless aliases on an internet Forum.. The man is aching to come clean, of course he is! Any O-Level psychologist will confirm that. But he ain't going to as things are, now is he?

I appreciate your kind comments. Insecurity being what it is, I struggle to accept therse things at face value, but I do get told them time & time again, & two simply lovely PM's have arrived in the last few minutes.

How's the family?

We have a (sort of) new face joining Channel 865 (SP) this week - Jonny Gould! Happy memories, or what?

865 are running some old stuff at the mo, by popular demand strangely, & every time I look at the screen I see me stood next to Compo, or Compo doing a Studio Show. I do miss him very much, & everywhere I go I get "where's your mate Compo?" Ugh, ugh, ugh. That's a tough one to bear.

I nearly had a heart attack last week - I saw a newspaper headline - "Racing Commentator found dead". You can imagine how I felt, but no, it was OK, it was not him. I'm sure the family of the guy who died last week think I'm a right charmer. 

The other odd thing is that the old Shows run back-to-back with the new Shows.

Here's 16stone tikay, here's 12st tikay, here's 16st tikay.......

[GreekStein]

Tikay I feel sorry for the amount of shit you have to deal with.

I will pm you his number now - apologies for forgetting. I'm also working with a phone that's not working with me.

One thing that does annoy me a bit is the 'aftermath' geniuses. People like your guy who knew he was dodgy 6 months ago. WHY not say it then!?

[Karabiner]

Blimey you're now lighter than me Tony.

I actually scaled at just under twelve stone(just by one lb.) for the first time in ages just after my round of golf on Saturday.

I was quite proud of that until I read about you becoming a 10 stone weakling, Charles Atlas course anyone ?

[tikay]

Tikay I feel sorry for the amount of shit you have to deal with.

I will pm you his number now - apologies for forgetting. I'm also working with a phone that's not working with me.

One thing that does annoy me a bit is the 'aftermath' geniuses. People like your guy who knew he was dodgy 6 months ago. WHY not say it then!?

The shit I deal with? I would not mind, but none of it is anything to do with me. I pay my bills, keep my nose clean, & put on clean knickers every day.

My pal told me he saw sure it was iffy, & he or I could have Posted it yeah. And what reaction do you think that would have received? And he had no proof, & neither did I. To be honest, I never paid much attention, I am trying more & more to live in peace, so I try to keep away from all the aggro areas. I'm not doing too well, mind.

But many had decided, even then, to steer clear.

I'm really sad about your situation, & I hope you were able to follow through along the lines we discussed.

[celtic]

Tikay I feel sorry for the amount of shit you have to deal with.

I will pm you his number now - apologies for forgetting. I'm also working with a phone that's not working with me.

One thing that does annoy me a bit is the 'aftermath' geniuses. People like your guy who knew he was dodgy 6 months ago. WHY not say it then!?

Think there was a lot of people who thought there was something not right, but didn't say anything for fear of getting it wrong. To many on blonde, Blatch was a bit of a legend. Imagine the shame if someone posted that Blatch was at it and then he came on and proved that everything was above board...

[George2Loose]

Tikay for some reason just seeing your post about the situation is reassuring. Sounds pretty ghey but true.

[tikay]

Blimey you're now lighter than me Tony.

I actually scaled at just under twelve stone(just by one lb.) for the first time in ages just after my round of golf on Saturday.

I was quite proud of that until I read about you becoming a 10 stone weakling, Charles Atlas course anyone ?

It was a BIG day for me on Sunday. My weight loss had slowed to 1lb or 2lb a week, & I was keen to reach the magic 11st 7lbs by Vegas date, July 1st, so I thought I'd come up short, as I was 11st 11lb the prev week. So when it came in at 11st 8lb, it was whahoo time. I celebrated with a small pack of sliced apple. 41 calories, & a bargain at £0.95.  Nearly a whole apple, too.

[tikay]

Tikay for some reason just seeing your post about the situation is reassuring. Sounds pretty ghey but true.

HI Big Man,

Ugh at your situation, omg man.

I rung you twice yesterday, unless I had the wrong number.* Greek Boy was then gonna text me your number, just to make sure I had it right, but he forgot.

When we get to talk, you'll be interested in my views, I'm quite sure, but I'm not doing it all over the Forum.

* It's possible I messed up. Maria got me a new phone, & it's a complete bag of poo, impossible to use.

[bobby1]

ahh the old team back at work Jonny G is a top man too, should be great  fun for you both. I don't really know what Compo is doing, I heard a story he was in the US but not sure of the details.

The Blatch things is so frustrating because their were holes in it but when you only post rarely as I do you assume that the trading is being vetted and accounts being seen. The one amazing thing to me is that even after 9 months nobody had seen any cash, when I read through the staking thread there were excuses about cheques taking weeks to arrive and it all sounded bad and the lads were still backing the guy to the hilt but trust is a strong force in good people. I feel bad that I didnt follow up some earlier questions of him but probably went months without posting and didnt follow the thread until Arbboy started posting on there and saw him talking agian about no Premium charge, it was impossible to be str8 when he said that but I didnt think it could be as bent as it turned out.


The family is good thanks, you mentioned duck ponds earlier and I took the boy to feed the ducks in our local duck pond a few weeks ago. When we went to France last year we taught him the French word for duck was Canard, he was chucking handfuls of bread to the ducks and shouting 'daddy, this duck is 'Kinard' which got a lot of disgusted looks from the old girls near us.

Well done with the diet too, you will have to pass on a few tips hen I next see you.

[George2Loose]

Tikay I feel sorry for the amount of shit you have to deal with.

I will pm you his number now - apologies for forgetting. I'm also working with a phone that's not working with me.

One thing that does annoy me a bit is the 'aftermath' geniuses. People like your guy who knew he was dodgy 6 months ago. WHY not say it then!?

The shit I deal with? I would not mind, but none of it is anything to do with me. I pay my bills, keep my nose clean, & put on clean knickers every day.

My pal told me he saw sure it was iffy, & he or I could have Posted it yeah. And what reaction do you think that would have received? And he had no proof, & neither did I. To be honest, I never paid much attention, I am trying more & more to live in peace, so I try to keep away from all the aggro areas. I'm not doing too well, mind.

But many had decided, even then, to steer clear.

I'm really sad about your situation, & I hope you were able to follow through along the lines we discussed.

Looking back there were definate tell tale signs and having known him for so long I'm questioning every littlle in discretion he made.

Example- he used to drive a blue mg rover. Sporty car. Next thing he hasn't got a car- why? He was involved in a crash on the motorway- when was this? Right about the time of the IVA.

The truth is even though all these "tell-tale" signs were there it didn't matter. Because I honestly did not think he was capable of doing something of this magnitude. Hell I didn't think he'd grim anyone for anything. U dismiss those things because you trust people. Esp your mates.