Vegas & The Aftermath - Diary

[tikay]

I pokered with a Gentleman at Luton, I think (not certain) his name was Gordon White. Apparently he designed, or had something to do with, the software for "chip & pin" Credit cards, & sold the patent for zillions to the clearing banks.

He's a most charming & erudite individual, but he came up with a brain-teaser & I'm not certain he's correct. We decided to have a £100 bet on it.

He said there are only two words in the English Dictionary that contain all five vowels in the "correct" order - a, e, i, o, u.

I disputed this, but I came up with one, which he & others claimed did not exist.

His two words were.....

Fascetious.

Abstemious

I conceded both of them, but said, there & then, that this one also counted.....(He claimed it was not a word).

Abstentious. (Which I've googled tonight, & is correct).

So there are at least three. Anyone know any more?

He's definitely lost the bet. Another Google search turns up:
abstemious
abstemiously
abstentious
acheilous
acheirous
acleistous
affectious
aleikoum
anemious
annelidous
arsenious
arteriosus
arterious
bacterious
caesious
facetious
facetiously
fracedinous
half-serious
half-seriously
majestious
parecious
pareciously
placentious
tragedious
+ a few two or three word phrases with the same condition, but personally I don't think they count

And re your question about poker aliases, I'm one of those people. My name is Andrew, and on every other forum/site I register with, I use a variation of real name/surname as a user ID, but when I first registered online (Party, about 3 years ago now), I just wanted something a bit more interesting, anonymous and slightly nerdy. So I decided rex (latin: king) and 008 (one better than 007 ). Didn't help much, I'm still playing $30SNGs    .

Andrew

Oops - Mr White owes me!

It just seemed so unlikely that there were only two, & I sussed "abstentious" immediately, there & then (a word Mr Prew claimed did not exist by the way - though, strangely, it means much the same as "abstemious").

[tikay]

Im not one for conflict at the table, but Mr MYOB would have got told to stop being an idiot in a polite way and then i would have shoved my chips in. Seriously in what universe does "going to war" mean calling.

You should have told him to MHOB......

Good Spot Claire.

Talking of acronyms (were we?) there was a famous Racehorse called Kybo, a hurdler, owned by a grand Gentleman (now long passed on) by the name of Isidore Kerman. Isidore was a hugely successful businessman, in fact he was at one time a Director of Robert Maxwell's Pergamon Press. He loved the "quaint" jumping courses, & I believe he may even have owned Fontwell &/or Plumpton. He also had another Kybo, "Super Kybo". (Both were trained by Josh Gifford IIRC). I think - though I can't find reference to it - that either Kybo or Super Kybo was killed in a race at Cheltenham.

Anyway, "Kybo" stood for "Keep Your Bowels Open". If Dingdell owned a horse.......

[boldie]

Im not one for conflict at the table, but Mr MYOB would have got told to stop being an idiot in a polite way and then i would have shoved my chips in. Seriously in what universe does "going to war" mean calling.

You should have told him to MHOB......

Good Spot Claire.

Talking of acronyms (were we?) there was a famous Racehorse called Kybo, a hurdler, owned by a grand Gentleman (now long passed on) by the name of Isidore Kerman. Isidore was a hugely successful businessman, in fact he was at one time a Director of Robert Maxwell's Pergamon Press. He loved the "quaint" jumping courses, & I believe he may even have owned Fontwell &/or Plumpton. He also had another Kybo, "Super Kybo". (Both were trained by Josh Gifford IIRC). I think - though I can't find reference to it - that either Kybo or Super Kybo was killed in a race at Cheltenham.

Anyway, "Kybo" stood for "Keep Your Bowels Open". If Dingdell owned a horse.......

There was horse called Kybo's Revenge in the 90s ((Though not related to the great Kybo in anyway that I can see)

[Rod Paradise]

Im not one for conflict at the table, but Mr MYOB would have got told to stop being an idiot in a polite way and then i would have shoved my chips in. Seriously in what universe does "going to war" mean calling.

You should have told him to MHOB......

Good Spot Claire.

Talking of acronyms (were we?) there was a famous Racehorse called Kybo, a hurdler, owned by a grand Gentleman (now long passed on) by the name of Isidore Kerman. Isidore was a hugely successful businessman, in fact he was at one time a Director of Robert Maxwell's Pergamon Press. He loved the "quaint" jumping courses, & I believe he may even have owned Fontwell &/or Plumpton. He also had another Kybo, "Super Kybo". (Both were trained by Josh Gifford IIRC). I think - though I can't find reference to it - that either Kybo or Super Kybo was killed in a race at Cheltenham.

Anyway, "Kybo" stood for "Keep Your Bowels Open". If Dingdell owned a horse.......

A recent winning horse's owner was told to change his horse's name after loads of arabic speakers cheered it home, then let slip that it's name 'Aygee Fik' could be translated as fck you


http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23779588-2,00.html

Oops  - horse was Aydee Fic.

[Rod Paradise]

Spotted waddling across a fairway - I think (not sure) this might be a partridge.

It's a Red-Legged Partridge Tony, an introduction from France/Spain.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/r/redleggedpartridge/index.asp

BTW the map on the RSPB site's wrong, as we have a few residents around my folks' house in the west of Scotland. Escapees from one of the Duke of Buchleuch's shoots.

A bit of news from up our way http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2085186/Stately-home-Dumfries-House-finally-opened-to-the-public.html the stately home has been bought and opened to the public - £15 for an hour tour (tea and cakes included I'm told) - amazingly this fantastic stately home is about a mile outside a rough tough ex-mining town.

Thanks Rod.

Did you see that a nesting pair of Ospreys had been spotted in Cheddar Gorge a few days back? It was claimed these were the first Ospreys to nest in England for centuries, but a letter in today's Times suggsts they have nested in a place in Cumbria - Bassenthwaite Lake - for many years, & they even have a viewing platform. I'm becoming besotted with birds & bird-life, & I may well go up there & take a look. tikay the twitcher?

I have some lovely pictures to Post from a Falconry, when time permits. Well worth a gander.

I've only seen ospreys once at the Loch of Lowes near Dunkeld in Perthshire, beautiful creatures.

Re Red's post about Buzzards there's a lot more than when I was a kid - the DDT seems to have finally got out of the foodchain & the persecution's been dramatically reduced. Unfortunately my Dad & I have seen far less buzzards in our area this year & are suspicious that someone may be poisoning or shooting them. There's a lot of walkers about the area on the lookout for anyone doing that though & if they are found out they will be brought to account (and possibly to the law as well).

[tikay]

Does anyone know why, when playing Online Poker, it's customary to have aliases which do not reflect our real names?

The first time I ever played Online - back in the Paradise Poker ground-breaking days, pre 2000, I was taken aback by this oddity. Then I noticed that the same thing happens on Forums.

Why is this, particularly as to Online Poker, does anyone know?

As Snatty said..there are millions of people with a similar name in the world.

As far as i go...Friends of mine who go WAY back have called me "Boldie" (after a horse called Boldedge) for ages..don't even remember when it started to be honest but it was roundabout 97/98 when the nickname started. The horse had come out and won his very first race as a 2YO in 97 and was regarded as top class but never quite lived up to it as a 2YO, as most of the progeny of Bevemer it took him a while to grow into himself and he made a decent 3YO...but was always slightly short of top class. I kept telling people that this horse was the bee's knees but they thought I was nuts. He was always in the best races and did OK..finally at the end of his 3YO season he picked up a  listed class race.
By then people already called me "boldie". I had kept on backing the horse and losing my money..and to be fair the horse had become slightly dissapointing to follow (much like my footie career had gone) ..when he won his listed race I told everyone who wanted to hear that "this horse will win a British Group 1 race" and had several bets with people who thought I was mad.

The horse came back as a 4YO and hacked up in a listed contest..and my friends were getting worried as he really looked good (and being by Bevemer he was only getting stronger)..the race after that he did FA but he picked up a nice group 2 and then by George he went and took another...but still hadn't picked up a group 1 race...he finally achieved that when winning in France in 2000. He won a tidy race there and finally got his G1...I was on in a massive fashion that day at he won at 9-1.

For my bet it was pointless as it wasn't a British group 1 but by that time the nickname had already firmly stuck...according to my friends (and they might be lying so who knows) they called me that because "There might be some class there (to win something decent) but you'll never know when he'll show it"..cheecky sods...but they haven't been proved too far wrong thusfar and I'm happy enough for people, especially my friends, to just call me "Boldie" and as far as nicknames go it's not the worst

Note; I had to write this with a little help from the Racingpost as I couldn't remember exactly when he won his second listed race.

Great story!

Bold Edge is doing OK at Stud, & had a winner recently in "Assertive" I gather. I assume you know the name of Bold Edge's Dam.....

Incidentally, Bold Edge's Sire was not "Bevemer", as you state, it was "Beveled" I believe.

Beveled, to my surprise (I just checked) was NOT owned by Lady Beaverbrook. Lady B - real moniker Marcia Anastasia Christoforides - gave most of her Racehorses seven-letter names, often beginning with "B" - the great "Bustino", "Boldboy", but also Niniski, Petoski, Terimon & Mystiko. I assumed - wrongly - it was one of her Ladyships nags.

Bustino (by Busted) featured in that epic King George "Race of the Century", trained by Major Dick Hern (later Sacked by Her Majesty the Queen-Ness as Royal Trainer ) & ridden by Joe Mercer, against the bay "Grundy", (Great Nephew - Word from Lundy) trained by Peter Walwyn, & ridden by a then youthful Pat Eddery. Nobody who watched that race will ever forget it.

She also owned Boldboy, a 7f animal, a standing dish at Newbury. He was always fractious at the start, particularly in his later career, but if he got away on level terms, he was always a danger in Listed Races & as top weight in handicaps - but only at 7f. He never got a mile, but sometimes could win at 6f, though a stiff 7f was exactly his distance. He had a huge neck, would sweat profusely down at the gates, was a viscious bugger, but when Joe Mercer got him running, wow, he could motor.

Beveled, as you'd know, was out of Sharpen-Up, one of the most prolofic & influential of latter-day Sires, & I could write page after page about Sharpen Up, but for now, suffice to say Sharpen Up, (bred by Benard Van Cutsem's wife, Mimi), had a terrific course career, & sired such as Kris, & Diesis, & the remarkable Clive Brittain traine, Marcos Lemos owned "Pebbles".

Note the quaint method of naming Racehorses "cleverly" - The Sire Sharpen Up bred "Beveled", & "Kris" is Greek for "dagger" I believe, you see this again & again in Racehorse names. (As above, Grundy, out of GReat Nephew & Word from LUNDY".

Much of which has bugger all to do with Beveled, but remarkably, I wrote the 4 paras above off the top of my head, without having to back-reference or check a single fact. (Yes, I prob got half of it wrong). I honestly can't remember what I did on Monday, two days ago, but I recall all that from over 40 years ago. Weird.

Sorry to have rambled so, but my Racehorse Breeding & Racing memories are so vivid, & I love that "world".

[tikay]

Spotted waddling across a fairway - I think (not sure) this might be a partridge.

It's a Red-Legged Partridge Tony, an introduction from France/Spain.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/r/redleggedpartridge/index.asp

BTW the map on the RSPB site's wrong, as we have a few residents around my folks' house in the west of Scotland. Escapees from one of the Duke of Buchleuch's shoots.

A bit of news from up our way http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2085186/Stately-home-Dumfries-House-finally-opened-to-the-public.html the stately home has been bought and opened to the public - £15 for an hour tour (tea and cakes included I'm told) - amazingly this fantastic stately home is about a mile outside a rough tough ex-mining town.

Thanks Rod.

Did you see that a nesting pair of Ospreys had been spotted in Cheddar Gorge a few days back? It was claimed these were the first Ospreys to nest in England for centuries, but a letter in today's Times suggsts they have nested in a place in Cumbria - Bassenthwaite Lake - for many years, & they even have a viewing platform. I'm becoming besotted with birds & bird-life, & I may well go up there & take a look. tikay the twitcher?

I have some lovely pictures to Post from a Falconry, when time permits. Well worth a gander.

I've only seen ospreys once at the Loch of Lowes near Dunkeld in Perthshire, beautiful creatures.

Re Red's post about Buzzards there's a lot more than when I was a kid - the DDT seems to have finally got out of the foodchain & the persecution's been dramatically reduced. Unfortunately my Dad & I have seen far less buzzards in our area this year & are suspicious that someone may be poisoning or shooting them. There's a lot of walkers about the area on the lookout for anyone doing that though & if they are found out they will be brought to account (and possibly to the law as well).

Why would they do that?

I'm sure, though, if you caught them, the Law's arm would not be necessary.

[MANTIS01]

Isn't going to war a signal of aggressive intent which would clearly demonstrate an intention to raise rather than an intention to passively call?

[tikay]

Not sure how many of you are reading snoops wonderful Home Page articles from Vegas, but this corker of a hand caught my eye.....

Down to three tables and 24 players on Day Two, Theo Tran was heads-up in a pot with Scott Montgomery. Tran was dealt A-A against Montgomery's 5-5. Incredibly, Montgomery flopped quad-fives, yet still ended up losing the hand. The flop came 5-5-4 with two spades. The turn brought the deuce of spades. The river delivered the three-of-spades, giving Tran a straight flush (A-2-3-4-5) with the ace-of-spades in his hand. Perhaps most incredible of all - Montgomery did not go broke on the hand. Tran bet the river for a modest number of chips, and Montgomery could only make the call (instead of raising), despite having four-of-a-kind.

Imagine only calling on the end, & correctly, in a WSOP-jobbie, when you are holding Quads!

The rest of the article, & many more, are here.....

http://blondepoker.com/index.php?q=node/19283

[Rod Paradise]

Spotted waddling across a fairway - I think (not sure) this might be a partridge.

It's a Red-Legged Partridge Tony, an introduction from France/Spain.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/r/redleggedpartridge/index.asp

BTW the map on the RSPB site's wrong, as we have a few residents around my folks' house in the west of Scotland. Escapees from one of the Duke of Buchleuch's shoots.

A bit of news from up our way http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2085186/Stately-home-Dumfries-House-finally-opened-to-the-public.html the stately home has been bought and opened to the public - £15 for an hour tour (tea and cakes included I'm told) - amazingly this fantastic stately home is about a mile outside a rough tough ex-mining town.

Thanks Rod.

Did you see that a nesting pair of Ospreys had been spotted in Cheddar Gorge a few days back? It was claimed these were the first Ospreys to nest in England for centuries, but a letter in today's Times suggsts they have nested in a place in Cumbria - Bassenthwaite Lake - for many years, & they even have a viewing platform. I'm becoming besotted with birds & bird-life, & I may well go up there & take a look. tikay the twitcher?

I have some lovely pictures to Post from a Falconry, when time permits. Well worth a gander.

I've only seen ospreys once at the Loch of Lowes near Dunkeld in Perthshire, beautiful creatures.

Re Red's post about Buzzards there's a lot more than when I was a kid - the DDT seems to have finally got out of the foodchain & the persecution's been dramatically reduced. Unfortunately my Dad & I have seen far less buzzards in our area this year & are suspicious that someone may be poisoning or shooting them. There's a lot of walkers about the area on the lookout for anyone doing that though & if they are found out they will be brought to account (and possibly to the law as well).

Why would they do that?

I'm sure, though, if you caught them, the Law's arm would not be necessary.

They kill game birds, reducing the amount available to the shoots. Although with the huge amount of rabbits about I doubt the buzzards will need to hunt partridge, pheasant or grouse.

[gatso]

Isn't going to war a signal of aggressive intent which would clearly demonstrate an intention to raise rather than an intention to passively call?

not if you say it to a player who is already all-in.

can't believe you passed the JJ there Tony, I do worry about you sometimes.

[tikay]

Isn't going to war a signal of aggressive intent which would clearly demonstrate an intention to raise rather than an intention to passively call?

not if you say it to a player who is already all-in.

can't believe you passed the JJ there Tony, I do worry about you sometimes.

I Passed purely & simply because I can't be doing with the aggro, & if I win that hand, it would be "tainted" by the argument. It's fair to say I Passed in "pique", too. If you wanna win my money, start an argument, & I'll give you the money, I just can't be arsed arguing with players who have single-figure brain cell counts. I - we all, (at our level) surely? - play for fun, not to have a barney.

But I took enormous pleasure in seeing him Bust-Out Pre-Final, whilst I went on to Cash. Happy Days Mr MYOB, eh?

[tikay]

Spotted waddling across a fairway - I think (not sure) this might be a partridge.

It's a Red-Legged Partridge Tony, an introduction from France/Spain.

http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/birdguide/name/r/redleggedpartridge/index.asp

BTW the map on the RSPB site's wrong, as we have a few residents around my folks' house in the west of Scotland. Escapees from one of the Duke of Buchleuch's shoots.

A bit of news from up our way http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2085186/Stately-home-Dumfries-House-finally-opened-to-the-public.html the stately home has been bought and opened to the public - £15 for an hour tour (tea and cakes included I'm told) - amazingly this fantastic stately home is about a mile outside a rough tough ex-mining town.

Thanks Rod.

Did you see that a nesting pair of Ospreys had been spotted in Cheddar Gorge a few days back? It was claimed these were the first Ospreys to nest in England for centuries, but a letter in today's Times suggsts they have nested in a place in Cumbria - Bassenthwaite Lake - for many years, & they even have a viewing platform. I'm becoming besotted with birds & bird-life, & I may well go up there & take a look. tikay the twitcher?

I have some lovely pictures to Post from a Falconry, when time permits. Well worth a gander.

I've only seen ospreys once at the Loch of Lowes near Dunkeld in Perthshire, beautiful creatures.

Re Red's post about Buzzards there's a lot more than when I was a kid - the DDT seems to have finally got out of the foodchain & the persecution's been dramatically reduced. Unfortunately my Dad & I have seen far less buzzards in our area this year & are suspicious that someone may be poisoning or shooting them. There's a lot of walkers about the area on the lookout for anyone doing that though & if they are found out they will be brought to account (and possibly to the law as well).

Why would they do that?

I'm sure, though, if you caught them, the Law's arm would not be necessary.

They kill game birds, reducing the amount available to the shoots. Although with the huge amount of rabbits about I doubt the buzzards will need to hunt partridge, pheasant or grouse.

Essentially, then, because it's financially "convenient"?. FFS.

[MANTIS01]

Posted by: gatso

not if you say it to a player who is already all-in.

I would suggest it's entirely possible to go to war with the all-in by moving in yourself. In fact there is a much better chance of engaging in a war with the all-in if you do this. By announcing the intention of war it should be obvious that further participants aren't welcome and as such a raise is imminent. If this chap could prove me wrong I would refrain from raising. He can't. I raise. No aggro here, just having fun with a nit at the table.

[TightEnd]

tikay

Mr MYOB is clearly very wrong here, and I won't argue (though I disagree) with your decision to pass, except to say why not ask for a ruling and take the aggro out of it? the ruling must surely back you up, you push in and away you go.

However, if I may be possibly impertinent, what is with the huge volume of speechplay/moodies (innocent and playful moodies) that is in your game at the moment?

is it a conscious thing? I can understand you bantering with me or other friends/frequent table opponents but its seems to be more indiscriminate than that on occasions lately.

Do you think it serves you well? Are you aware how OTT it can come across/be perceived by those who don't know you? Or is merely you having fun/part of the experience you wish to enjoy at the table?