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« on: August 23, 2007, 08:07:05 PM »

No notes on my opponent

Game #4374287293: $20K Guaranteed THU (ID5347523) $100+$9 - Hold'em NL (10/20) - 2007/08/23 - 20:03:19 (UK)
Table "5347523 - 13" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: Char09076 (2500 in chips)
Seat 2: Foamer (2480 in chips)
Seat 3: Daniel-R (2510 in chips)
Seat 4: Dean037 sits out
Seat 5: JockScott (2700 in chips)
Seat 6: adamg001 sits out
Seat 7: The_sam (2480 in chips)
Seat 8: Stewman (2330 in chips)
Seat 9: Tanurass sits out
Seat 10: Luckywiz (2870 in chips)
adamg001: posts small blind 10
The_sam: posts big blind 20
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Foamer [ ]
Stewman: calls 20
Tanurass: folds
Luckywiz: folds
adamg001 sits back
Char09076: raises to 60
Foamer: calls 60
Daniel-R: folds
Dean037: folds
JockScott: folds
adamg001: folds
The_sam: calls 40
Stewman: calls 40
----- FLOP ----- [two hearts ]
The_sam: checks
Stewman: checks
Char09076: bets 60
Foamer: calls 60
The_sam: folds
Stewman: folds
----- TURN ----- [two hearts ][]
Char09076: bets 120
Foamer: raises to 480
Char09076: calls 360
----- RIVER ----- [two hearts ][]
Char09076: bets 1900 and is all-in
Foamer: ?
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2007, 10:05:59 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2007, 10:29:59 PM »

i call too
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2007, 10:54:18 PM »


I'm folding that, stinks of a 9...   
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2007, 11:39:05 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2007, 11:52:59 PM »

I'm folding here,no-one pushes with the arse end of the straight here
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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2007, 12:56:35 AM »

I called, I couldn't believe he had 99 else he'd have bet more on the flop vs multiple opponents. My turn raise represents real strength here so surely he puts a smaller bet in to have sets/two pairs pay him off on the river. The shove just makes no sense to me even with a nine, I don't think he puts me on the straight either because I'd have probably raised less on the turn. Even less likely give how the hand plays is him having a 4, 54 suited shoves the turn I think and any other 4 doesn't shove the river, as Sharpy said for obvious reasons.

All these factors added up to me calling. He showed JTo.

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2007, 01:02:46 AM »

Ballsy call this early in the tourny....I couldn't
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2007, 06:10:39 AM »

Smells like Nines. As someone else said, very few players stuff it all in on a river like that.

I'm surprised you didn't raise the flop as there aren't too many turn cards you're going to like.
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2007, 12:44:57 PM »

Smells like Nines. As someone else said, very few players stuff it all in on a river like that.

I'm surprised you didn't raise the flop as there aren't too many turn cards you're going to like.

Who bets 1/4 pot with nines there vs 3 opponents? I thought that bet signified he was incredibly strong or incredibly weak.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2007, 03:43:25 PM »

Smells like Nines. As someone else said, very few players stuff it all in on a river like that.

I'm surprised you didn't raise the flop as there aren't too many turn cards you're going to like.

Who bets 1/4 pot with nines there vs 3 opponents? I thought that bet signified he was incredibly strong or incredibly weak.

I would have raised then to find out how strong he was, put him to the test as they say. What are you hoping for with 7-4? Surely top pair's good enough to stick in a raise, especially with a hand so vulnerable to a turn card.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2007, 03:44:53 PM »

I probably raise the flop too tbh.

But the way the hand is played out i have to call the river there.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2007, 03:47:43 PM »

I probably raise the flop too tbh.

But the way the hand is played out i have to call the river there.

He called a re-raise on the Turn, so very unlikely he has nothing. An overpair would surely check? I'm very surprised to see J-T there.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2007, 04:07:12 PM »

Not if he puts you on a set/two pair etc.. He could also have Ax of spades, if the x is 9 then bl.

An overpair may check, but at the same time, doesnt a 9 value bet rather than shove?
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2007, 04:12:13 PM »

I probably raise the flop too tbh.

But the way the hand is played out i have to call the river there.

He called a re-raise on the Turn, so very unlikely he has nothing.

He did have nothing.  I call on the river but raise flop.
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