blinds at Gala have become a bad joke

[Ironside]

There will probably be some such 'tweak' to the structure of the forthcoming £100 PLHE on the 6th November.

Nothing too drastic:

Rebuy period will probably be cut from 120 minutes to 100 minutes.

feel free to cut the rebuy period too 60 mins i dont plan on bring many rebuys with me anyway

[Royal Flush]

Yes Rob of course as i said earlier "the game is the same for all of us" my point is that your suggestion that "14.5 BB's average give lot's of play" is simply silly.

I am not one of those who goes to these comps and compains about the structure, i do not play live weekly comps because almost every one has a horrible, horrilbe structure. I would rather play a £50 freezeout online where i actually get some play, without being shouted at or having someone try to give me lung cancer!

i agree with you that players who moan about the levels who play week in week out our silly, if they do not like it, then there are other options.

Now i know all these things have to be done by 4/5am so you do give as much play as possible, however please do not tell the players that 14.5BB's allows plenty of play, it removes all confidence that you understand the players perspective.

[Ironside]

the advantage the net has over live is that it doesnt need to do a chip count at closing time

thise means players know they cant sit back and wait for a good deal or chip count

so players are forced to play although you still see people trying to ladder climb passing hands

when they have 90% of there chips in the pot in the blind

[Nightfly]

Yes Rob of course as i said earlier "the game is the same for all of us" my point is that your suggestion that "14.5 BB's average give lot's of play" is simply silly.

I am not one of those who goes to these comps and compains about the structure, i do not play live weekly comps because almost every one has a horrible, horrilbe structure. I would rather play a £50 freezeout online where i actually get some play, without being shouted at or having someone try to give me lung cancer!

i agree with you that players who moan about the levels who play week in week out our silly, if they do not like it, then there are other options.

Now i know all these things have to be done by 4/5am so you do give as much play as possible, however please do not tell the players that 14.5BB's allows plenty of play, it removes all confidence that you understand the players perspective.

as I said before an average stack of 14.5 big blinds allows considerably more play options than an average stack of 5 big blinds
(If you look very carefully you may be able to detect a slight edge of sarcasm in my typing during the example)

Anyway I think you are fixating on this a little too much!


If you go back and read the earlier thread my initial example had the BB ratio at over 20. This being deemed comfortable earlier in the final. in this example the BB ratio of Average stack never falls below 17.

Average stack means some ARE lower and some are higher.


About understanding Player's perspective:

Are telling me that all players value exactly the same thing
play the same way
want the same structure.

If so then this is very naive

Different players want different things
No player is the same

You prefer a slow game some prefer a fast game

There is no easy to define collective 'player perspective'

Your opinion is not the representatitive one and give up telling me I don't know what I'm doing> I actually spend an awful lot of time talking to regular players and trying to establish what their perspective is. These people that i serve day in day out have confidence that I understand their perspective.


If all players were the same my job would be easy.

[Royal Flush]

It's good that you initial example had the av at over 20 that does allow for play.

I took your "allows plenty of play" to mean just that, i find it hard to see sarcasm in text.

I am not saying that all players want the same thing, clearly players who want a fast game go to a casino chip throwing contest, and those that want a slower game go to festivals or play online.

I didn't say you don't know what you are doing, i said you remove the confidence of the players with that coment.

It seems you are making improvements but maybe you need to stop taking everything to heart so much!! Acknowledge the feedback u get on here and compile it with feedback from the casino then see what you can do, rather than just smacking us all down!