Thoughts?

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Ps, was this on party?

[Royal Flush]

Ps, was this on party?

Yeah, you call even faster?

[LeKnave]

Ps, was this on party?

Yeah, you call even faster?

no. on party you min re-raise. then he snap calls with A2o.

[Rookie (Rodney)]

Ps, was this on party?

Yeah, you call even faster?

Nope i value shove!

[Rookie (Rodney)]

He's prob got A3/A4 and thinks his 3 pair are good.

[KingPoker]

Like you said, what can he have here?

he has raised pre, got 2 callers, checks a great opprotunity to bet with his genuine/represent an overpair on a 9 high flop, checks the A on the turn, whcih again he still might get u 2 off ur hand with a big enough bet representing AK and reraises your bvalue bet ont he river.

I cant even bear to think he rr'd pre with 33/44 so UNLESS he has 99, he has played it like an idiot and you are ahead.

EDIT, the only way he checked that flop could have been is that im guessing u had a LAG/SLAG image and he ws checking thinking you would bet being last to act. When you didnt, he knew he had F'd up and the ace was the worst card that could come for him on the turn, he is scared now so is no longer checking to CR and instead is just hoping to see the river. When you check, he might actually think he is still wining this now and tries to take the pot on the river with the RR pretty much sure there is no way you would have checked the Ace turn with an Ace. Im now putting him on QQ.

[Royal Flush]

Like you said, what can he have here?

he has raised pre, got 2 callers, checks a great opprotunity to bet with his genuine/represent an overpair on a 9 high flop, checks the A on the turn, whcih again he still might get u 2 off ur hand with a big enough bet representing AK and reraises your bvalue bet ont he river.

I cant even bear to think he rr'd pre with 33/44 so UNLESS he has 99, he has played it like an idiot and you are ahead.

EDIT, the only way he checked that flop could have been is that im guessing u had a LAG/SLAG image and he ws checking thinking you would bet being last to act. When you didnt, he knew he had F'd up and the ace was the worst card that could come for him on the turn, he is scared now so is no longer checking to CR and instead is just hoping to see the river. When you check, he might actually think he is still wining this now and tries to take the pot on the river with the RR pretty much sure there is no way you would have checked the Ace turn with an Ace. Im now putting him on QQ.

The guy re-raising the river was not the PFR, it was the PF limper.

As it happened he had 3's full, neverends.

[KingPoker]

<shakes head>

[Ironside]

my thoughts are he aint got a single 9 or a better kicker with ace so he either flopped a set or has you on a steal

when you make a value bet last to act on the river you have to be prepared to call the check raise IMHO

otherwise just check it down

As it happened he had 3's full, neverends.

aint i good

i still think if your going to value bet the river you have to pay him off

but if you have any doubts then just check it down your last to act it costs you nothing

[totalise]

my thoughts are he aint got a single 9 or a better kicker with ace so he either flopped a set or has you on a steal

when you make a value bet last to act on the river you have to be prepared to call the check raise IMHO

otherwise just check it down

As it happened he had 3's full, neverends.

aint i good

i still think if your going to value bet the river you have to pay him off

but if you have any doubts then just check it down your last to act it costs you nothing

why do you have to call if you bet? hand ranges are dynamic, theres a huge chance that flushys bet can get paid off by worse, so checking here is playing far too weak. If it was the preflop raiser that raised the river, it would prolly be more prudent to call, but when someone limp calls a raise preflop, hes already announced hes playin defensive, and so when he springs into action, he almost always has it.

[Ironside]

the reason i bet there is to get more money in the pot

the guy reraises but your getting nearly 3-1 to call the river bet

you got what you wanted more money in the pot and you got it


now you have to work out how often he will have a hand that beats your on the river

if its less than 70% of the time you have to call

i would say (without knowing the players) that as a general rule you will get reraised here after a poistional raise  with a hand that you beat about 50% of timeso it would be a call

if you werent last to act and you get reraised then it makes it alot closer to the 70% (to make 3-1 profitable)