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« on: December 26, 2007, 09:48:03 PM »

Playing at the Luton Christmas Eve Double Chance £50 freezeout..

Second level (50-100). Starting chips 2500... have approx 3000 infront, without having second stack yet.
10 seater table..

You are in second position with

 

First to act makes it 350 to play. Firstly... do you call this? Normally i wouldnt stand a raise with an ace smaller than a queen. But, this time, partly due to the fact it was the best hand i saw for half hour, and secondly because there was a lot of loose play at our table, i decided to flat call.

Fold...Fold...Fold...

Next to act raises to 1100 total.

Next to him immediately calls.

Button pushes all in for 4000 chips.

Small blind calls.

Big blind calls.

First to act calls!

Number 1:: I must call this surely, purely because of the value in it?? I'm knowing im behind surely!?

Number 2:: Does it make a difference to you if you still have your second stack to come, whether you end up calling or not?

I called.

Your thoughts please?....
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2007, 10:15:31 PM »

i fold in a freezeout because the chances are you're drawing dead to a straight and not only that but some of your outs for that straight are probably gone. needless to say i call though in this format mainly due to wanting to avoid any tilt that may occur if i fold and would have won!
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2007, 05:53:04 PM »

calling the 350. Not too bad on an active table.

Once all the other action has taken place then it's an easy fold.

4 way you can more or less be gtd to be drawing dead.

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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2007, 06:33:44 PM »

i'd rather call for the valet than the value
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2007, 06:34:56 PM »

after calling for the valet and getting your drink ordered

FOLD

then get up from table and take a bathroom break or a smoke so you dont know if you would of hit and dont get tilted
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2007, 06:35:34 PM »

i'd rather call for the valet than the value

 
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2007, 08:31:32 PM »

i'd rather call for the valet than the value

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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2007, 08:49:17 PM »

easy peasy fold
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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2007, 09:29:08 PM »

fold, fold, fold.

You already have 4 all ins with the original re-raiser and his caller to come. AJ isn't looking good here even with the potential for a septuple up
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2007, 12:01:14 AM »

Fold to the 1st bet, let alone the second.
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2007, 02:04:22 AM »

lol harsh.
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2007, 02:34:32 AM »

calling the 350. Not too bad on an active table.

Once all the other action has taken place then it's an easy fold.

4 way you can more or less be gtd to be drawing dead.


This is why I find this an easy fold to the first bet, thus avoiding the situation.

POSITION POSITION POSITION
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2007, 02:38:10 AM »

Good point.
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2007, 02:40:59 AM »

partly due to the fact it was the best hand i saw for half hour

Classic quote.

Live play, and half an hour - equates to what? 6/7 hands?

Patience.
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« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2007, 05:54:38 AM »

fold no value here
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