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« on: January 07, 2008, 11:00:37 AM »

Played in a tourny over the christmas period, got knocked out in 11th with 144 runners, taking home, just 310.00 (when the buy in was 250) doesnt seem worth it for nearly 7 hours of poker... but was a good experience playing against different styles of players, espcially getting value out of tight players, when im a loose aggressive player.
 
Sitting there on the final 2 tables, Im getting short stacked... have 12 x the big blinds, currently at 2000/4000 and going up in 17 minutes. Im in the big blind, and I look down at Pocket 6's, Bloke under the gun (Who is like granite a complete rock and went on to win the tourny, raised it to 9000 (5000 for me to call) now im putting him on J's, or Q's or K's as Aces I have seen him move all in alot in the past with and obviously worried someone is playing Ace Rag...
 
Folded to small blind who calls... so we have a raiser a caller and me on pocket 6's, Check my cards spend 30 seconds thinking and call... 27000 in the pot (including my BB and calling the 5k on top) So im sitting there with 39,000 left...
 
FLOP...
 
two spades
 
SB Checks, I raise, 13,5000 (half the pot) the original under the gun raiser, pushes all in (putting me all in and out if I lose) SB folds...
 
I have 25,500 left, Have already invested 22,500 in the pot, and will be super small stack so will be going out within a few hands (Unless I pick up a monster next hand and get 3 callers), Pot being 105,000, yep makes me 3rd chip leader and being able to tighten up and play premium hands to the final table. So yep I call... He shows Kings, So Im in the lead and my set holds up. So I have taken a pot down 105k...

Was I right to call the re raise, even though, I know im behind, and Im either hitting a set and folding on the flop... (Not to sure on this one)
 
4 HANDS LATER...
 
I have Aces, In 2nd to last position, It gets raised, re raised and all in before it gets to me, I know im in front and this point, but im worried about them holding up, And im hoping all 3 are playing either suited connectors or high card mid card low, AK etc and im not running into a pair or something which hits a set... So yes Im all in and then notice someone has me covered (BB)... BB calls, and the re raiser is all in and the original raiser folds...
 
ME: 
BB: (announced they are suited and im getting short)
RAISER: 
 
FLOP
 
and  - BB Has a flush, Im miles behind and have to hit a heart to take the pot down (not  but I dont notice this at this point)
 
TURN
 
  - BB hits a straight to make me even further behind, have to hit a Heart to win...
 
RIVER
 
  - Ive shouted yes, having a nut flush and then someone laughs yep the big blind, saying bye mate, Straight flush, I didnt notice, was well upset about it too...
 
Now am I Right, Pushing all in when I could of climed the ladder for free, unless the pot splits, oh did I play this right to go to the final table in total domination chip stack wise or should I have let 2 people battle it out and like i say climb the ladder.

Opinions on both hands would be cool.
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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 11:03:17 AM »

I would be willing to commit all of my chips in both of these situations
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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 11:05:08 AM »

I would be willing to commit all of my chips in both of these situations

Thats what I thought... Did'nt think it was a bad play myself... But always good to see others thoughts etc.
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 11:05:15 AM »

Hand 1:  24K in the middle and 5K to u, just under 5/1 to call pre + the implied odds of the rest of his stack if u flop a set, call all day long

Hand 2: If your considering folding AA here you're in a game much to big for you, fist pump it all in.
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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 11:08:16 AM »

hand 2, win the hand you probably win the tournament. Got to go in

hand 1 I think you are talking about calling the raise pre-flop? (as post flop you aren't passing at any point) With only 12x bb its all-in or fold for me pre-flop..you haven't got the pot odds to hit your set (though we could discuss implied odds I suppose) or the stack to play down the streets
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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 11:09:10 AM »

Hand 1:  24K in the middle and 5K to u, just under 5/1 to call pre + the implied odds of the rest of his stack if u flop a set, call all day long

Hand 2: If your considering folding AA here you're in a game much to big for you, fist pump it all in.

No im not considering folding A'A was just thinking about the ladder and stuff, but ohwell was my big tourny buy in to date and cashed, then won a few quid playing 3 card in the casino, so not the worst thing in the world...

Made the right move by all standards then?
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« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 11:10:55 AM »

hand 2, win the hand you probably win the tournament. Got to go in

hand 1 I think you are talking about calling the raise pre-flop? (as post flop you aren't passing at any point) With only 12x bb its all-in or fold for me pre-flop..you haven't got the pot odds to hit your set (though we could discuss implied odds I suppose) or the stack to play down the streets

Yep most definatly your correct there... Im talking Pre Flop... No way im laying down on the flop... But honestly, I think this rock would fold K' K or something like that... I have seen him lay down a House on the flop... Correctly putting someone on Quads... Really good player...

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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 11:11:34 AM »

yup, unlucky on losing, its always a tough blow when you go out of a tournament in unfortunate circumstances, especially when you have forked out a sum that would make it sting, but try not to concentrate on laddering in tournaments, trying to eek up the ladder is a really good way of ensuring a really small payout, go for the glory and the big payout, and try and steal all the chips from the people trying to ladder!

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« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 11:12:44 AM »

Most standard hands ever IMO

Hand 1: your always calling the 5k more with those pot odds, then especially if your read on him is correct to have a big pair and if you hit your set you can double up.
 
Then hand 2, your always calling. Just unlucky.
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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 11:13:17 AM »

hand 2, win the hand you probably win the tournament. Got to go in

hand 1 I think you are talking about calling the raise pre-flop? (as post flop you aren't passing at any point) With only 12x bb its all-in or fold for me pre-flop..you haven't got the pot odds to hit your set (though we could discuss implied odds I suppose) or the stack to play down the streets

Yep most definatly your correct there... Im talking Pre Flop... No way im laying down on the flop... But honestly, I think this rock would fold K' K or something like that... I have seen him lay down a House on the flop... Correctly putting someone on Quads... Really good player...




given that read, I like the push with 66.

ignoring the fact that as played you hit your set obv.
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« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 11:13:58 AM »

Made the right move by all standards then?

Yes.

If you held up with AA then this hand probably wouldn't be being discussed and ud be sat there with a decent chunk in your pocket.  Just unlucky. You got it all in with a huge shot at a monster pot, can't complain at that.


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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008, 11:14:50 AM »

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I have seen him lay down a House on the flop... Correctly putting someone on Quads... Really good player...

wow he sounds it, it takes a really skilled pokerist to correctly fold a full house and avoid losing all of his chips to quads!
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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 11:19:31 AM »

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I have seen him lay down a House on the flop... Correctly putting someone on Quads... Really good player...

wow he sounds it, it takes a really skilled pokerist to correctly fold a full house and avoid losing all of his chips to quads!

I'm just waiting for Flushy and LuckyLloyd to come along and read that Smiley

 
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« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 11:21:08 AM »

Most standard hands ever IMO

Hand 1: your always calling the 5k more with those pot odds, then especially if your read on him is correct to have a big pair and if you hit your set you can double up.
 
Then hand 2, your always calling. Just unlucky.

Thanks everyone, SO where would the best place to go, to play against the members of Blonde!

I Have had a few good tournys this year online, 1 win and a cash, in two 180 runner $22 sit n go's, im just setting up a blog now to follow my progress of 2008

You know his playing J's, Q's or K's unless He is all in with A's... He had J's, Flop Comes, J, 8, 8, His hit his house, but bloke who raised pre flop, hit the quads he showed his house and said i know im behind... and yep... Monstered!

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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2008, 11:21:51 AM »

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I have seen him lay down a House on the flop... Correctly putting someone on Quads... Really good player...

wow he sounds it, it takes a really skilled pokerist to correctly fold a full house and avoid losing all of his chips to quads!

I'm just waiting for Flushy and LuckyLloyd to come along and read that Smiley

 

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