Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary

[Chompy]

Tom, apols if this is a bit 'man lands on moon' - don't have time to read all diaries, even now I intentio-swerve Celtic's nonsense - but have you seen Red Dog the movie?

You do read mine - first job when you log on, everyday, right? No bubble bath nonsense there.

Yep but just killing time tbh until China Mug's goes daily.

Here's you go Tom. Perfection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTExiWzvJlo

[rex008]

As a freelance Science & Technology correspondent (I'll post on either diary, I'm fickle like that), this is a story that has captured my attention this morning:

http://www.zmescience.com/research/eta-carinae-explosion-eruption-312345/

Cliffs: Astronomers are studying a "supernova imposter" explosion whose light first reached earth in 1843, by looking at the light reflections in a dust cloud nearly 80 light years the other side of it. It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead. Fascinating we can actually manage this.

[tikay]

As a freelance Science & Technology correspondent (I'll post on either diary, I'm fickle like that), this is a story that has captured my attention this morning:

http://www.zmescience.com/research/eta-carinae-explosion-eruption-312345/

Cliffs: Astronomers are studying a "supernova imposter" explosion whose light first reached earth in 1843, by looking at the light reflections in a dust cloud nearly 80 light years the other side of it. It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead. Fascinating we can actually manage this.

LOVE the freelance bit!

Feel free to post the supernova & planets stuff on Tom's Diary, it holds little interest for me, I'm afraid.

Any physics stuff, CERN, whatever, I'd be grateful for. I don't understand any of it, but I enjoy trying.

[tikay]

Morning, Tom.

You enjoyed listening to Radio 2 yesterday, then?

It was my pleasure to assist.

[rex008]

As a freelance Science & Technology correspondent (I'll post on either diary, I'm fickle like that), this is a story that has captured my attention this morning:

http://www.zmescience.com/research/eta-carinae-explosion-eruption-312345/

Cliffs: Astronomers are studying a "supernova imposter" explosion whose light first reached earth in 1843, by looking at the light reflections in a dust cloud nearly 80 light years the other side of it. It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead. Fascinating we can actually manage this.

LOVE the freelance bit!

Feel free to post the supernova & planets stuff on Tom's Diary, it holds little interest for me, I'm afraid.

Any physics stuff, CERN, whatever, I'd be grateful for. I don't understand any of it, but I enjoy trying.

Now I'm going to have to argue with you on Tom's diary . I'm always puzzled by your lack of interest in space stuff, when you clearly have an interest in lots of other areas of physics/general science. For me, outer space produces the best science, as we can't directly observe a lot of things going on (who's seen the inside of star?), so we have to create hypotheses and mechanisms of testing them remotely. It's great science. There's still a lot of explanation to be done.

Apart from science, space engineering also deeply fascinates me. Getting men to the moon in the 60s was, IMHO, humanity's greatest ever engineering achievement, requiring vast amounts of commitment, ingenuity and bravery. Creating the fission bomb in the 40s runs a close second. I don't understand how it doesn't inspire everyone.

I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested in anybody's lack of fascination .

[kinboshi]

As a freelance Science & Technology correspondent (I'll post on either diary, I'm fickle like that), this is a story that has captured my attention this morning:

http://www.zmescience.com/research/eta-carinae-explosion-eruption-312345/

Cliffs: Astronomers are studying a "supernova imposter" explosion whose light first reached earth in 1843, by looking at the light reflections in a dust cloud nearly 80 light years the other side of it. It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead. Fascinating we can actually manage this.

LOVE the freelance bit!

Feel free to post the supernova & planets stuff on Tom's Diary, it holds little interest for me, I'm afraid.

Any physics stuff, CERN, whatever, I'd be grateful for. I don't understand any of it, but I enjoy trying.

Now I'm going to have to argue with you on Tom's diary . I'm always puzzled by your lack of interest in space stuff, when you clearly have an interest in lots of other areas of physics/general science. For me, outer space produces the best science, as we can't directly observe a lot of things going on (who's seen the inside of star?), so we have to create hypotheses and mechanisms of testing them remotely. It's great science. There's still a lot of explanation to be done.

Apart from science, space engineering also deeply fascinates me. Getting men to the moon in the 60s was, IMHO, humanity's greatest ever engineering achievement, requiring vast amounts of commitment, ingenuity and bravery. Creating the fission bomb in the 40s runs a close second. I don't understand how it doesn't inspire everyone.

I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested in anybody's lack of fascination .

He's having a go, imo.

[rex008]

As a freelance Science & Technology correspondent (I'll post on either diary, I'm fickle like that), this is a story that has captured my attention this morning:

http://www.zmescience.com/research/eta-carinae-explosion-eruption-312345/

Cliffs: Astronomers are studying a "supernova imposter" explosion whose light first reached earth in 1843, by looking at the light reflections in a dust cloud nearly 80 light years the other side of it. It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead. Fascinating we can actually manage this.

LOVE the freelance bit!

Feel free to post the supernova & planets stuff on Tom's Diary, it holds little interest for me, I'm afraid.

Any physics stuff, CERN, whatever, I'd be grateful for. I don't understand any of it, but I enjoy trying.

Now I'm going to have to argue with you on Tom's diary . I'm always puzzled by your lack of interest in space stuff, when you clearly have an interest in lots of other areas of physics/general science. For me, outer space produces the best science, as we can't directly observe a lot of things going on (who's seen the inside of star?), so we have to create hypotheses and mechanisms of testing them remotely. It's great science. There's still a lot of explanation to be done.

Apart from science, space engineering also deeply fascinates me. Getting men to the moon in the 60s was, IMHO, humanity's greatest ever engineering achievement, requiring vast amounts of commitment, ingenuity and bravery. Creating the fission bomb in the 40s runs a close second. I don't understand how it doesn't inspire everyone.

I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested in anybody's lack of fascination .

He's having a go, imo.

Damn. Sussed.

[tikay]

As a freelance Science & Technology correspondent (I'll post on either diary, I'm fickle like that), this is a story that has captured my attention this morning:

http://www.zmescience.com/research/eta-carinae-explosion-eruption-312345/

Cliffs: Astronomers are studying a "supernova imposter" explosion whose light first reached earth in 1843, by looking at the light reflections in a dust cloud nearly 80 light years the other side of it. It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead. Fascinating we can actually manage this.

LOVE the freelance bit!

Feel free to post the supernova & planets stuff on Tom's Diary, it holds little interest for me, I'm afraid.

Any physics stuff, CERN, whatever, I'd be grateful for. I don't understand any of it, but I enjoy trying.

Now I'm going to have to argue with you on Tom's diary . I'm always puzzled by your lack of interest in space stuff, when you clearly have an interest in lots of other areas of physics/general science. For me, outer space produces the best science, as we can't directly observe a lot of things going on (who's seen the inside of star?), so we have to create hypotheses and mechanisms of testing them remotely. It's great science. There's still a lot of explanation to be done.

Apart from science, space engineering also deeply fascinates me. Getting men to the moon in the 60s was, IMHO, humanity's greatest ever engineering achievement, requiring vast amounts of commitment, ingenuity and bravery. Creating the fission bomb in the 40s runs a close second. I don't understand how it doesn't inspire everyone.

I'm not having a go, I'm genuinely interested in anybody's lack of fascination .

Guilty as charged, Rex, I'm afraid, no defence, no mitigation.

I have no idea why it is so, but it is. I've tried to interest myself, but there is no spark. It is a complex subject, way beyond my grasp, but so is quantum physics, and I adore reading that stuff.

I don't, not for a moment, quibble with your view, either.  I don't enjoy brussel sprouts but many do, it's just the way we are.

Space engineering, that is a different matter, & yes it does interest & fascinate me, but I strugle to find much material on the engineering aspect of it.

Space travel is a different matter, no interest at all. I was in my twenties, & thirsty for knoweledge when the Americans first landed on the moon, & it was carried live on TV, right across the world, but I never bothered to watch.

The multi-stage rockets that get them there, the re-entry mechanism, da de da, that's all great, but space itself, nope. Karabiner would describe it as my uneducated palate. He is usually right.

You would be amazed at the eclectic range of books I have, & the topics which endlessly fascinate me, but space & the planets is not on the list. I'm more, I think, a nature person.

I watched some TV the other day about a carniverous caterpillar - how about that?  It cuts a groove in a tree leaf, hides itself in the groove, & then when a nice little fruit fly comes along, it pounces - BOOM - & eats it. Pretty neat, eh? How the hell did THAT evolve?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQt54x6KmK8

PS - I like baseball, too.

[RED-DOG]

As a freelance Science & Technology correspondent (I'll post on either diary, I'm fickle like that), this is a story that has captured my attention this morning:

http://www.zmescience.com/research/eta-carinae-explosion-eruption-312345/

Cliffs: Astronomers are studying a "supernova imposter" explosion whose light first reached earth in 1843, by looking at the light reflections in a dust cloud nearly 80 light years the other side of it. It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead. Fascinating we can actually manage this.

It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead.

That's a great description. It helped me to understand the article.




Don't mind Tony. He just closes his mind to some things, no matter how interesting they are.

It reminds me of something that happened several years ago. I was in a hotel room in London watching TV when Sir David Attenborough's seminal 'Blue Planet' first aired.

I was absolutely transfixed as I watched years of work from a team of dedicated professionals culminate in an extravaganza of spectacular footage, often including shots of previously unseen marine life. The behavioural sequence were simply stunning. They left me agog.

Almost beside myself, I rang my dad and, with words tumbling over each other, I breathlessly described what I was seeing.

There was a brief silence, and then he replied in a flat, monotone voice..

"I don't like fishes".

[tikay]

As a freelance Science & Technology correspondent (I'll post on either diary, I'm fickle like that), this is a story that has captured my attention this morning:

http://www.zmescience.com/research/eta-carinae-explosion-eruption-312345/

Cliffs: Astronomers are studying a "supernova imposter" explosion whose light first reached earth in 1843, by looking at the light reflections in a dust cloud nearly 80 light years the other side of it. It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead. Fascinating we can actually manage this.

It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead.

That's a great description. It helped me to understand the article.




Don't mind Tony. He just closes his mind to some things, no matter how interesting they are.

It reminds me of something that happened several years ago. I was in a hotel room in London watching TV when Sir David Attenborough's seminal 'Blue Planet' first aired.

I was absolutely transfixed as I watched years of work from a team of dedicated professionals culminate in an extravaganza of spectacular footage, often including shots of previously unseen marine life. The behavioural sequence were simply stunning. They left me agog.

Almost beside myself, I rang my dad and, with words tumbling over each other, I breathlessly described what I was seeing.

There was a brief silence, and then he replied in a flat, monotone voice..

"I don't like fishes".

I'm quite knowledgeable on concrete.

[kinboshi]

You would be amazed at the eclectic range of books I have, & the topics which endlessly fascinate me, but space & the planets is not on the list. I'm more, I think, a nature person.

Yep, some of them aren't even yours

[rex008]

As a freelance Science & Technology correspondent (I'll post on either diary, I'm fickle like that), this is a story that has captured my attention this morning:

http://www.zmescience.com/research/eta-carinae-explosion-eruption-312345/

Cliffs: Astronomers are studying a "supernova imposter" explosion whose light first reached earth in 1843, by looking at the light reflections in a dust cloud nearly 80 light years the other side of it. It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead. Fascinating we can actually manage this.

It's like not being around to hear a noise, so analysing an echo instead.

That's a great description. It helped me to understand the article.




Don't mind Tony. He just closes his mind to some things, no matter how interesting they are.

It reminds me of something that happened several years ago. I was in a hotel room in London watching TV when Sir David Attenborough's seminal 'Blue Planet' first aired.

I was absolutely transfixed as I watched years of work from a team of dedicated professionals culminate in an extravaganza of spectacular footage, often including shots of previously unseen marine life. The behavioural sequence were simply stunning. They left me agog.

Almost beside myself, I rang my dad and, with words tumbling over each other, I breathlessly described what I was seeing.

There was a brief silence, and then he replied in a flat, monotone voice..

"I don't like fishes".

Oh, I quite understand the different interests of different people. My wife is interested in history, the weirdo. But being interested in quantum theory but not caring about supernovas is like being fascinated by cod but not caring about haddock. It vexes me.

If you don't want space stuff, but like engineering achievement, may I recommend:



http://www.amazon.co.uk/Apollo-11-Manual-Insight-Hardware/dp/1844256839

Ignore the fact it's published by Haynes - it's not about fixing a main bus B undervolt when your oxygen tank loses pressure, it's a very well written history and background of the engineering in a dip-in-and-out format. Best space engineering book I've got, out of a handful.

[tikay]

She is interested in HISTORY?

That's terrible, just terible. How very weird.

Thanks for the recommend of the Apollo 11 book, I'll add it to the list.

I am truly sorry to vex Rex. There must be an ode there somewhere.

[tikay]

You would be amazed at the eclectic range of books I have, & the topics which endlessly fascinate me, but space & the planets is not on the list. I'm more, I think, a nature person.

Yep, some of them aren't even yours

3, as I recall - & three VERY good ones they are, too. I have them set aside, in my "borrowed" department.

[kinboshi]

You would be amazed at the eclectic range of books I have, & the topics which endlessly fascinate me, but space & the planets is not on the list. I'm more, I think, a nature person.

Yep, some of them aren't even yours

3, as I recall - & three VERY good ones they are, too. I have them set aside, in my "burrowed" department.

FYP