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« Reply #4560 on: November 10, 2008, 11:55:05 AM »


Through intelligence or repition?

When asked to pour the perrier water into the jelly, the animal is lifting the jelly jar beofre it is mentioned.

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Read the study papers on this research.  The bonobos were taught the names for objects but were able to abstract meanings of sentences that they hadn't heard before. 

Humans learn language through the same process - repetition of vocabulary combined with the innate ability to understand language principles that can be developed over time.

Oh dear, headmaster head on again?? you assume I did not read any the notes.

IMO the video shows teaching by repetition due to the FACT that the jelly jar is lifted before being mentioned by the woman.

The squirell was given various obstacles which it worked out itself.

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« Reply #4561 on: November 10, 2008, 12:17:03 PM »


Through intelligence or repition?

When asked to pour the perrier water into the jelly, the animal is lifting the jelly jar beofre it is mentioned.

Geo

Read the study papers on this research.  The bonobos were taught the names for objects but were able to abstract meanings of sentences that they hadn't heard before. 

Humans learn language through the same process - repetition of vocabulary combined with the innate ability to understand language principles that can be developed over time.

Oh dear, headmaster head on again?? you assume I did not read any the notes.

IMO the video shows teaching by repetition due to the FACT that the jelly jar is lifted before being mentioned by the woman.

The squirell was given various obstacles which it worked out itself.

Geo.

Not getting involved with any 'debate' with you on this Geo.  Squirrels are obviously as clever as bonobos and the whole research has been done in an elaborate ploy to reconfirm evolution as a valid fact and to discredit creationists' arguments that humans aren't descended from other animals.

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« Reply #4562 on: November 10, 2008, 02:19:45 PM »

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« Reply #4563 on: November 10, 2008, 07:00:24 PM »

The company I work for owns a country pile in deepest Norfolk.  It has a huge sprawling lawn, that was today adourned by a massive flock of seagulls.  On closer inspection these seagulls were running on the spot, to a gul  everyone jigging up and down - an amazing site.

Ever seen such a thing?  Do other birds do this (Obviously they were doing it to get worms I assume)?  It was truly bizzarre to see.
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« Reply #4564 on: November 10, 2008, 07:02:47 PM »

The company I work for owns a country pile in deepest Norfolk.  It has a huge sprawling lawn, that was today adourned by a massive flock of seagulls.  On closer inspection these seagulls were running on the spot, to a gul  everyone jigging up and down - an amazing site.

Ever seen such a thing?  Do other birds do this (Obviously they were doing it to get worms I assume)?  It was truly bizzarre to see.


Do you work for Bernard Mathews ?
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« Reply #4565 on: November 10, 2008, 07:06:29 PM »

The company I work for owns a country pile in deepest Norfolk.  It has a huge sprawling lawn, that was today adourned by a massive flock of seagulls.  On closer inspection these seagulls were running on the spot, to a gul  everyone jigging up and down - an amazing site.

Ever seen such a thing?  Do other birds do this (Obviously they were doing it to get worms I assume)?  It was truly bizzarre to see.


Do you work for Bernard Mathews ?

The business yes, not he personally - Why?
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« Reply #4566 on: November 10, 2008, 07:07:12 PM »

The company I work for owns a country pile in deepest Norfolk.  It has a huge sprawling lawn, that was today adourned by a massive flock of seagulls.  On closer inspection these seagulls were running on the spot, to a gul  everyone jigging up and down - an amazing site.

Ever seen such a thing?  Do other birds do this (Obviously they were doing it to get worms I assume)?  It was truly bizzarre to see.


Do you work for Bernard Mathews ?

The business yes, not he personally - Why?


Just after a cheap turkey for xmas Wink
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« Reply #4567 on: November 10, 2008, 07:45:49 PM »

Now what them seagulls be doing is WORM CHArming

I happen to know quite a bit about worm Charming , so I will put it in here in a minute
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« Reply #4568 on: November 10, 2008, 07:48:10 PM »

Ok heres a brief look at it

Worm charming, worm grunting, and worm fiddling are methods of attracting worms from the ground. The activity is usually performed to collect bait for fishing but can also take the form of a competitive sport. As a skill and profession worm charming is now very rare, with the art being passed through generations to ensure that it survives

Most worm charming methods involve vibrating the soil. These vibrations encourage the worms to the surface, but the exact reason for this is debated. While some believe that the vibration simulates rainfall others say that the worms are trying to reach the surface in order to escape from what they believe is a hungry mole. The same technique is used by many species of bird who devour the worms as they appear above ground.
The activity is known by several different names and the apparatus and techniques vary significantly. "Worm grunting" generally refers to the use of a "stob", a wooden stake that is driven into the ground, and an "iron" which is used to rub the stob. "Worm fiddling" also uses a wooden stake but utilises a dulled saw which is dragged along its top.
Many other methods exist, ranging from tap dancing to meditation
 Competitive worm charming
In most competitions the fiddlers with the collector (or collectors) of the most worms in a set time being declared as the winners. They usually have a zone in which to perform their charming, measuring three yards square.
One of the first worm charming events took place in a school  at Willaston County Primary School in Willaston, Cheshire. The "World Worm Charming Championship" started in 1980 and is now an annual event that celebrates the sport. It was organised by then-headmaster John Bailey, who wrote the original rules for the competition. The current world record, as listed by Guiness Book of Records, was established at that first event with teenager Tom Shufflebotham collecting 511 worms in 30 minutes.
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« Reply #4569 on: November 11, 2008, 12:32:32 AM »

Out of the GUKPT £300, (Sorry guys) No drama, just a series of small losses. I never got above my starting stack.







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« Reply #4570 on: November 11, 2008, 04:09:23 PM »

Did you get a seat for the ME Red?

I didn't make this one, gutted, and can't get to the live sats. Don't you just hate it when work gets in the way.
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« Reply #4571 on: November 11, 2008, 04:11:21 PM »

Yep. Playing the £500 and the ME.
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« Reply #4572 on: November 11, 2008, 04:23:47 PM »

Yep. Playing the £500 and the ME.

Excellant best of luck Tom. Keep us posted.
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« Reply #4573 on: November 11, 2008, 04:26:12 PM »

Unlike someone else I could mention, I didn't have to go back for day two of the GUKPT at Blackpool, so I decided to avoid the casino until tonight and take a nice bracing walk along the prom instesad.

Unlike someone else I could mention, I don't walk along the beach in a "Fashion" shirt from George and a pair of "leather effect" dress shoes.




 




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« Reply #4574 on: November 11, 2008, 04:27:50 PM »

I'd have thought giant oak-leaf camoflage would only really work in giant oak woods.....
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