Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary

[Ironside]

nco is lance corpral up to warrent officer 1 class or regiment sargent major

[RED-DOG]

nco is lance corpral up to warrent officer 1 class or regiment sargent major

Can he go further than that?

[Ironside]

i would treat an ex squaddie the same be they a pvt or a field marshall
the more respect they give me the more i give them
same as anyone else inreality


oh yeah NCO stands for non commishoned officer so is anyone with rank that hasnt recieved a commishion from the queen/king

as for rank gap captian and pvt isnt tht far apart you often find pvts l/cpls and cpls with much more experiance than cpts and with that much more respect amongst the troops

[RED-DOG]

oh yeah NCO stands for non commishoned officer so is anyone with rank that hasnt recieved a commishion from the queen/king

So an NCO can become a commissioned officer?

[Ironside]

nco is lance corpral up to warrent officer 1 class or regiment sargent major

Can he go further than that?

when my dad was a WO11 he was offered a WO1 in germany or a commishion in england he wanted to have a WO1 in england so got out after his 22 years

my brother is a WO1 now, he could get a commionion now getting his captaincy withing 18 months of his commishion and extend his service he is due to get out in about 3 years

but it would mean changing his trade atm he has a trade which will earn him a good living when he gets out (accountancy) if he was to get his commishion he would go back into a pay office and lose the accountancy he has worked for and the cushy life so has knocked it back

[EvilPie]

If ex soldiers do meet in civvy street, do the ranks they once held have a bearing on their relationship/conduct etc?

What if it's a biggish rank gap, i.e private/captain?

Also, what exactly is an NCO, and how high up the ranking ladder can he climb?

To civilians this would be the equivalent of seeing one of your old school teachers in the street.

What are you supposed to call them?

[Ironside]

So an NCO can become a commissioned officer?

yeah anyone can apply for a queens commishion but its normally sgts and above that will get pushed in that direction if there bosses think it would suit them

[RED-DOG]

What is a WO11 and how is it different from a WO1?

[Geo the Sarge]

If ex soldiers do meet in civvy street, do the ranks they once held have a bearing on their relationship/conduct etc?

What if it's a biggish rank gap, i.e private/captain?

Also, what exactly is an NCO, and how high up the ranking ladder can he climb?

NCO - Non commissioned officer - lance corporal to Warrant Officer 1

Private
LCPL
CPL
SGT
COLOUR SGT
WO11
WO1.

There are variations i.e signaller for sigs regts, fusilier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ or trooper forregts who originally where horseback. We also have bombadier (Cpl) for Artillery regts

On attaining WO1 then there is an option to take a full commission, occassionally the offer is made to WO2.

Generally when meeting in civvy street rank means nothing, however the repect is generally still there.

There is a strange rule where an ex officer puts (retd) after their rank and retains their title once finished with the forces. i.e. Joe bloggs Lt Col (retd)

Geo

[Longines]

Would pay ever come into the decision about going from NCO to commissioned? I notice that WO1 tops out at £45k whereas a Major starts at £47k.

[RED-DOG]

There is a strange rule where an ex officer puts (retd) after their rank and retains their title once finished with the forces. i.e. Joe bloggs Lt Col (retd)

When you say officer, do you mean Commissioned officer?

[Ironside]

If ex soldiers do meet in civvy street, do the ranks they once held have a bearing on their relationship/conduct etc?

What if it's a biggish rank gap, i.e private/captain?

Also, what exactly is an NCO, and how high up the ranking ladder can he climb?

To civilians this would be the equivalent of seeing one of your old school teachers in the street.

What are you supposed to call them?

tell me about it
a few years back before H&S got envoled i used to teach disabilty equality awareness in the month between the end of exams and end of term to 1st year pupils at the local schools. now i had been out of school for 10 years but ran into my chemistry teacher that i used to fancy at school (only reason i got a higherin chemistry) in a school coulnt call her by her first name  all day.
then we went to my old school and got invited into staff room i felt like a naughty school boy

[Longines]

There is a strange rule where an ex officer puts (retd) after their rank and retains their title once finished with the forces. i.e. Joe bloggs Lt Col (retd)

I thought there was a rule/custom that allows an officer to continue using the rank in civvy street once they reach a certain level?

So you can call yourself Col Joe Bloggs but not Cpt Joe Bloggs?

[Ironside]

Would pay ever come into the decision about going from NCO to commissioned? I notice that WO1 tops out at £45k whereas a Major starts at £45k.

no a wo1 getting a commision would start as a 2nd lt but would get a better rate of pay than a 2lt coming straight from sandhurst

[Ironside]

If ex soldiers do meet in civvy street, do the ranks they once held have a bearing on their relationship/conduct etc?

What if it's a biggish rank gap, i.e private/captain?

Also, what exactly is an NCO, and how high up the ranking ladder can he climb?

NCO - Non commissioned officer - lance corporal to Warrant Officer 1

Private
LCPL
CPL
SGT
COLOUR SGT
WO11
WO1.

There are variations i.e signaller for sigs regts, fusilier http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ or trooper forregts who originally where horseback. We also have bombadier (Cpl) for Artillery regts

On attaining WO1 then there is an option to take a full commission, occassionally the offer is made to WO2.

Generally when meeting in civvy street rank means nothing, however the repect is generally still there.

There is a strange rule where an ex officer puts (retd) after their rank and retains their title once finished with the forces. i.e. Joe bloggs Lt Col (retd)

Geo

private and equiilent wouldnt be classed as a nco
thats why you have the mess, the junior nco mess and the sgts mess