Seeing your neighbour's cards.

[Card_Shark]

It is not my intension to suggest or imply that you or anyone else that disagrees with my comments are cheats

really?

Please refer to my previous post re explaining myself......again.

[Card_Shark]

Maybe because you have the responsibility to behave in a sporting way by not accidentally looking at your neighbours cards?
 

 

how can I possibly have a responsibility to not do something accidentally?

pretty sure that if we ever get a standardised rule book that one won't be in it

My second sentance explained it. Say you see the cards by accident, it's not sporting to use that info. It's just not cricket!

Next post "but this is poker not cricket"....LOL

LOL, Most likely!! Some folk just can't help themselves:)

but it just aint croquet

Told ya, some people just can't help themselves...LOL.
Well i suppose you either get it or you don't so i'm all done trying to explain myself any further.

It is not my intension to suggest or imply that you or anyone else that disagrees with my comments are cheats

really?

Please refer to my previous post re explaining myself......again.

[snoopy1239]

Like many things in sports, there are always grey areas that balance on the idea of sportsmanship. If there's nothing in the rules that says you have to announce that you have accidentally seen someone else's cards, then technically there's nothing wrong in you using that information to your advantage. It therefore comes down to the individual's ethics regarding poker and whether or not they are happy, morally, to take this advantage. Personally, I'm not happy to win in this manner and would prefer to declare that I have accidentally gained such an advantage.

I assume everyone on this thread was in favour of the Kanu goal against Sheffield then? I wasn't, but that's just me, and there's nothing in the rules that says you have to give the ball back.

[kinboshi]

Like many things in sports, there are always grey areas that balance on the idea of sportsmanship. If there's nothing in the rules that says you have to announce that you have accidentally seen someone else's cards, then technically there's nothing wrong in you using that information to your advantage. It therefore comes down to the individual's ethics regarding poker and whether or not they are happy, morally, to take this advantage. Personally, I'm not happy to win in this manner and would prefer to declare that I have accidentally gained such an advantage.

I assume everyone on this thread was in favour of the Kanu goal against Sheffield then? I wasn't, but that's just me, and there's nothing in the rules that says you have to give the ball back.

Doesn't Law 12 say that the ref can give a yellow card for 'unsporting behaviour'.  If the ref had deemed it unsporting, could he have disallowed the goal and booked Kanu?

Do any poker rules cover 'unsporting' behaviour?


The thing with this hand, is that if you don't play your kings - you are actually penalising yourself for the mistake made by the other player.  That's bonkers in my book.

[MANTIS01]

Arsenal have comfortable possession of the ball in midfield. The Arsenal midfielder glances up and casually passes the ball to one of his team mates. But wait....he's made the most basic of errors....he wasn't paying attention and has actually passed to the Sheff Utd. striker by mistake thinking it was a team mate. The striker races off towards the Arsenal goal...but en route he stops and picks the ball up and hands it back to Arsenal. "I know you didn't mean to do that, it was a mistake, and I wouldn't want to take advantage of that blunder. So here's the ball back, have another go son....I just don't feel right about it"

This doesn't sit well with me.

I am at the poker table to observe, not to coach. If my oppo lets his guard down for even a second I will jump all over it. This may not be the spirit of life or humanity but it is without doubt the spirit of poker. A killer instinct at the table has absolutely no reflection on your principles in life or personal ethics, it just doesn't. An ability to have a coldness towards such issues when playing is an ethos to aspire to imo.

[Card_Shark]

Like many things in sports, there are always grey areas that balance on the idea of sportsmanship. If there's nothing in the rules that says you have to announce that you have accidentally seen someone else's cards, then technically there's nothing wrong in you using that information to your advantage. It therefore comes down to the individual's ethics regarding poker and whether or not they are happy, morally, to take this advantage. Personally, I'm not happy to win in this manner and would prefer to declare that I have accidentally gained such an advantage.

I assume everyone on this thread was in favour of the Kanu goal against Sheffield then? I wasn't, but that's just me, and there's nothing in the rules that says you have to give the ball back.

Thanks for explaining my thoughts perfectly, i wasn't in favour of the Kanu goal either.

[gatso]

I assume everyone on this thread was in favour of the Kanu goal against Sheffield then? I wasn't, but that's just me, and there's nothing in the rules that says you have to give the ball back.

but that's got nothing to do with taking advantage of an opponent's mistake which is what we're discussing

Arsenal have comfortable possession of the ball in midfield. The Arsenal midfielder glances up and casually passes the ball to one of his team mates. But wait....he's made the most basic of errors....he wasn't paying attention and has actually passed to the Sheff Utd. striker by mistake thinking it was a team mate. The striker races off towards the Arsenal goal...but en route he stops and picks the ball up and hands it back to Arsenal. "I know you didn't mean to do that, it was a mistake, and I wouldn't want to take advantage of that blunder. So here's the ball back, have another go son....I just don't feel right about it"

whereas this has and shows how ridic it is not to take advantage

[GlasgowBandit]

Since it cropped up that giving the ball back to your opponents or putting the ball out of play to allow an opponent to be seen by the physio gets on my fecking goat.