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LuckyLloyd
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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Reply #45 on:
March 07, 2008, 04:23:01 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
One more thing......
Barney Boatman calling with 9 3!!! What's that all about? Must've been in the big blind but even so what can you possibly hit? If you hit you're probably not getting paid because no one else hits. If you miss you miss big and lose a few hundred chips. If you hit and someone else hits big enough to play along you're probably losing.......
I'm not knocking these plays because these guys are good players and probably better than I'll ever be but I just don't get what he hopes to achieve with 9 3?
Looks like I've got a lot to learn.
In my experience, most live players - even venerable pros with a string of results to their name - tend to defend from the blinds with far too loose a range.
My default would be to fold 93s here because you are going to be oop with 9 high, no draw most of the time and the stacks aren't deep enough to give you the neccesary implied odds to compensate for that fact. Despite the fact that the raise is to 700 and there has already been a caller.
But hey, I'm sure Barney will play his way. And who am I to argue.
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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Reply #46 on:
March 07, 2008, 04:30:29 PM »
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?
Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.
I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.
After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.
Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
One more thing......
Barney Boatman calling with 9 3!!! What's that all about? Must've been in the big blind but even so what can you possibly hit? If you hit you're probably not getting paid because no one else hits. If you miss you miss big and lose a few hundred chips. If you hit and someone else hits big enough to play along you're probably losing.......
I'm not knocking these plays because these guys are good players and probably better than I'll ever be but I just don't get what he hopes to achieve with 9 3?
Looks like I've got a lot to learn.
Do you go out of a lot of tournaments pushing all in with 7BB and losing a 60-40?
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LuckyLloyd
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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Reply #47 on:
March 07, 2008, 04:37:35 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 07, 2008, 04:30:29 PM
Do you go out of a lot of tournaments pushing all in with 7BB and losing a 60-40?
lol Flushy. In fairness, he's not far off on the two points you quoted.
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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Reply #48 on:
March 07, 2008, 05:47:33 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 07, 2008, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?
Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.
I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.
After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.
Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
One more thing......
Barney Boatman calling with 9 3!!! What's that all about? Must've been in the big blind but even so what can you possibly hit? If you hit you're probably not getting paid because no one else hits. If you miss you miss big and lose a few hundred chips. If you hit and someone else hits big enough to play along you're probably losing.......
I'm not knocking these plays because these guys are good players and probably better than I'll ever be but I just don't get what he hopes to achieve with 9 3?
Looks like I've got a lot to learn.
Do you go out of a lot of tournaments pushing all in with 7BB and losing a 60-40?
Stop it - the Samaritans will never sponsor this forum if you keep this up!
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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March 07, 2008, 05:58:00 PM »
noone else just muck this hand pre flop from early? lol
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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March 07, 2008, 06:43:34 PM »
Quote from: LuckyLloyd on March 07, 2008, 01:53:12 PM
Quote from: boldie on March 07, 2008, 12:16:20 PM
60 Bb's mate...plenty deep for me to fold with this action.
But you nits can continue to debate on who should have folded what when. Enjoy.
Oh dear and you were doing so well too. Thanks for giving the ok for people to discuss hand histories on the hand history board, tell me, do you drink in the early afternoon??
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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Reply #51 on:
March 07, 2008, 06:44:53 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 07, 2008, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?
Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.
I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.
After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.
Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
One more thing......
Barney Boatman calling with 9 3!!! What's that all about? Must've been in the big blind but even so what can you possibly hit? If you hit you're probably not getting paid because no one else hits. If you miss you miss big and lose a few hundred chips. If you hit and someone else hits big enough to play along you're probably losing.......
I'm not knocking these plays because these guys are good players and probably better than I'll ever be but I just don't get what he hopes to achieve with 9 3?
Looks like I've got a lot to learn.
Do you go out of a lot of tournaments pushing all in with 7BB and losing a 60-40?
Do you ever post your thoughts on the hand anymore or do you just wait to disagree with someone or make barbed comments?
cmon mate, how do you see the hand?
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EvilPie
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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Reply #52 on:
March 07, 2008, 07:12:14 PM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 07, 2008, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?
Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.
I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.
After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.
Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
One more thing......
Barney Boatman calling with 9 3!!! What's that all about? Must've been in the big blind but even so what can you possibly hit? If you hit you're probably not getting paid because no one else hits. If you miss you miss big and lose a few hundred chips. If you hit and someone else hits big enough to play along you're probably losing.......
I'm not knocking these plays because these guys are good players and probably better than I'll ever be but I just don't get what he hopes to achieve with 9 3?
Looks like I've got a lot to learn.
Do you go out of a lot of tournaments pushing all in with 7BB and losing a 60-40?
Of course I do. Doesn't everybody??
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=20524.0
Have you read the thread above? It might be aimed at you...........
Nice that someone with 13000 posts is so encouraging to someone with 3. Thanks dude!!
PS. I've finished defending myself. No more thread jacking from me. I think this has gone a bit off topic.
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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Reply #53 on:
March 07, 2008, 07:34:23 PM »
stick with it EvilPie,when the moon isn't rising in Virgo we're mostly ok!
welcome to blonde
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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Reply #54 on:
March 08, 2008, 12:20:35 AM »
Quote from: bobby1 on March 07, 2008, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 07, 2008, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?
Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.
I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.
After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.
Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
One more thing......
Barney Boatman calling with 9 3!!! What's that all about? Must've been in the big blind but even so what can you possibly hit? If you hit you're probably not getting paid because no one else hits. If you miss you miss big and lose a few hundred chips. If you hit and someone else hits big enough to play along you're probably losing.......
I'm not knocking these plays because these guys are good players and probably better than I'll ever be but I just don't get what he hopes to achieve with 9 3?
Looks like I've got a lot to learn.
Do you go out of a lot of tournaments pushing all in with 7BB and losing a 60-40?
Do you ever post your thoughts on the hand anymore or do you just wait to disagree with someone or make barbed comments?
cmon mate, how do you see the hand?
TBH lloyd has hit it, you are not loving it but you can't pass here. Fist-pump-shove-aments
Folding A9c here pre is good if you can't play flops, but if you can't play flops you should probably stick to scrabble.
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NoflopsHomer
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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Reply #55 on:
March 08, 2008, 12:28:42 AM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 08, 2008, 12:20:35 AM
Quote from: bobby1 on March 07, 2008, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 07, 2008, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?
Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.
I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.
After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.
Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
One more thing......
Barney Boatman calling with 9 3!!! What's that all about? Must've been in the big blind but even so what can you possibly hit? If you hit you're probably not getting paid because no one else hits. If you miss you miss big and lose a few hundred chips. If you hit and someone else hits big enough to play along you're probably losing.......
I'm not knocking these plays because these guys are good players and probably better than I'll ever be but I just don't get what he hopes to achieve with 9 3?
Looks like I've got a lot to learn.
Do you go out of a lot of tournaments pushing all in with 7BB and losing a 60-40?
Do you ever post your thoughts on the hand anymore or do you just wait to disagree with someone or make barbed comments?
cmon mate, how do you see the hand?
TBH lloyd has hit it, you are not loving it but you can't pass here. Fist-pump-shove-aments
Folding A9c here pre is good if you can't play flops, but
if you can't play flops you should probably stick to scrabble.
Uncalled for.
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LuckyLloyd
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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March 08, 2008, 12:34:18 AM »
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 07:12:14 PM
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=20524.0
Have you read the thread above? It might be aimed at you...........
Quote from: bobby1 on March 07, 2008, 06:43:34 PM
Oh dear and you were doing so well too. Thanks for giving the ok for people to discuss hand histories on the hand history board, tell me, do you drink in the early afternoon??
Tighty, I think you should ban me from the
board.
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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Reply #57 on:
March 08, 2008, 12:37:00 AM »
Quote from: LuckyLloyd on March 08, 2008, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 07:12:14 PM
http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=20524.0
Have you read the thread above? It might be aimed at you...........
Quote from: bobby1 on March 07, 2008, 06:43:34 PM
Oh dear and you were doing so well too. Thanks for giving the ok for people to discuss hand histories on the hand history board, tell me, do you drink in the early afternoon??
Tighty, I think you should ban me from the
board.
I don't think a ban is really needed, not at the moment anyway.
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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March 08, 2008, 12:39:10 AM »
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 08, 2008, 12:20:35 AM
Quote from: bobby1 on March 07, 2008, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 07, 2008, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?
Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.
I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.
After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.
Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
One more thing......
Barney Boatman calling with 9 3!!! What's that all about? Must've been in the big blind but even so what can you possibly hit? If you hit you're probably not getting paid because no one else hits. If you miss you miss big and lose a few hundred chips. If you hit and someone else hits big enough to play along you're probably losing.......
I'm not knocking these plays because these guys are good players and probably better than I'll ever be but I just don't get what he hopes to achieve with 9 3?
Looks like I've got a lot to learn.
Do you go out of a lot of tournaments pushing all in with 7BB and losing a 60-40?
Do you ever post your thoughts on the hand anymore or do you just wait to disagree with someone or make barbed comments?
cmon mate, how do you see the hand?
TBH lloyd has hit it, you are not loving it but you can't pass here. Fist-pump-shove-aments
Folding A9c here pre is good if you can't play flops, but if you can't play flops you should probably stick to scrabble.
Thanks, did you speak to Mickey about the hand? Do you know what the correct stack sizes were as there seems to be some confusion over who had what in front of them.
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Re: Help Lord Wernick.............
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Reply #59 on:
March 08, 2008, 03:35:34 AM »
Quote from: NoflopsHomer on March 08, 2008, 12:28:42 AM
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 08, 2008, 12:20:35 AM
Quote from: bobby1 on March 07, 2008, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on March 07, 2008, 04:30:29 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 01:50:24 PM
Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?
Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.
I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.
After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.
Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will
Quote from: EvilPie on March 07, 2008, 04:13:15 PM
One more thing......
Barney Boatman calling with 9 3!!! What's that all about? Must've been in the big blind but even so what can you possibly hit? If you hit you're probably not getting paid because no one else hits. If you miss you miss big and lose a few hundred chips. If you hit and someone else hits big enough to play along you're probably losing.......
I'm not knocking these plays because these guys are good players and probably better than I'll ever be but I just don't get what he hopes to achieve with 9 3?
Looks like I've got a lot to learn.
Do you go out of a lot of tournaments pushing all in with 7BB and losing a 60-40?
Do you ever post your thoughts on the hand anymore or do you just wait to disagree with someone or make barbed comments?
cmon mate, how do you see the hand?
TBH lloyd has hit it, you are not loving it but you can't pass here. Fist-pump-shove-aments
Folding A9c here pre is good if you can't play flops, but
if you can't play flops you should probably stick to scrabble.
Uncalled for.
You reckon? You could always get your butler to play for you instead...
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