Help Lord Wernick.............

[EvilPie]

Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?

Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.

I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.

After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.

Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will

[LuckyLloyd]

60 Bb's mate...plenty deep for me to fold with this action.

Anything less than 100BBs deep = shallow stacks. The blinds go up in these things you know.

Anyway, I'm not really sure the hand merits such deep analysis. Micky could have played it different in terms of betsizing - but everyone should be getting their money in on that flop. It's just a cooler as far as I'm concerned. But you nits can continue to debate on who should have folded what when. Enjoy.

[LuckyLloyd]

Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?

Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.

I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.

After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.

Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will

I'd openfold A9o alright. But I think openraising A9s is perfectly acceptable.

[TightEnd]

But you nits can continue to debate on who should have folded what when. Enjoy.

  can we? why thank you!

[kinboshi]

Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?

Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.

I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.

After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.

Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will

Hello Mr Pie   Good to have you on-board!

I'm a nit too. 

[LuckyLloyd]

But you nits can continue to debate on who should have folded what when. Enjoy.

  can we? why thank you!

  Don't mention it. I'm sure it will be extremely beneficial for all those who take part.

[jonah]

So 99 big blinds is a shortstack is it?  thats my lesson of the day learnt then.

[boldie]

Maybe I'm the tightest player on the planet but would anyone else consider folding pre flop?

Maybe in late position it's worth a raise or possibly early position if it's a six seater but otherwise I'm folding with the stacks and blinds as they are.

I never like these sort of hands early on in tournaments. They're nothing but trouble as far as my (very limited) experience goes. It doesn't seem to matter what you hit you just never know quite where you stand after the flop and are always going to get put to big decisions. I don't mind this later on but at this stage it's just not worth it.

After the flop I'm folding here with no hesitation at all. This hand is useless unless you've hit the nuts or it's cheap to carry on to see if you do.

Maybe that's why Mr Wernick has earned so much more out of poker than I ever will

oh no...I'm not even considering raising OOP with this hand...I fold faster than a folding thing from nit town myself pre-flop.

[LuckyLloyd]

So 99 big blinds is a shortstack is it?  thats my lesson of the day learnt then.

You post read good.

[NoflopsHomer]

The funny thing is, that Lloyd is generally nittier than most people posting on this thread.

[MANTIS01]

Posted by: LuckyLloyd

So, if I was playing the hand I would have had 900 in pre and c - bet big for like 2400 or something. Meaning it would be incorrect for me to fold at that point.

A player of Mickey's ability has an edge over the field because he is a good decision maker. Pot-committing yourself to hands so you don't have the freedom to make good decisions is taking away your edge. If the hand was a cooler he wouldn't be asking for opinions.

I'd stick around LLoyd.

[LuckyLloyd]

The funny thing is, that Lloyd is generally nittier than most people posting on this thread.

I am the rockiest of all the rocks. Tis true.

[LuckyLloyd]

Posted by: LuckyLloyd

So, if I was playing the hand I would have had 900 in pre and c - bet big for like 2400 or something. Meaning it would be incorrect for me to fold at that point.

A player of Mickey's ability has an edge over the field because he is a good decision maker. Pot-committing yourself to hands so you don't have the freedom to make good decisions is taking away your edge. If the hand was a cooler he wouldn't be asking for opinions.

I'd stick around LLoyd.

lol, he still got the money in though even though he had laid a less advantageous price for himself!!

[I KNOW IT]

To me the problem has arised with the size of the initial raise. Those size of raises are most often getting called in the blinds at that stage of comp given stack sizes with any sort of connectors.( by me anyway lol)
When the flop comes down ,well imo there isnt a lot going to happen apart from the chips going in as everyone has hit big time
 Like LLoyd said its a cooler.
I personally would find it hard to fold in that spot against the blinds with that given flop and my holding.

For some of those saying its an almost certain fold, what would you do in Mickeys situation post flop with AA? as they are a big dog compared to having A9 clubs on that board. Imo AA are a far easier fold given the action

[EvilPie]

One more thing......

Barney Boatman calling with 9 3!!! What's that all about? Must've been in the big blind but even so what can you possibly hit? If you hit you're probably not getting paid because no one else hits. If you miss you miss big and lose a few hundred chips. If you hit and someone else hits big enough to play along you're probably losing.......

I'm not knocking these plays because these guys are good players and probably better than I'll ever be but I just don't get what he hopes to achieve with 9 3?

Looks like I've got a lot to learn.