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« on: March 22, 2008, 05:55:24 PM »

$10k gaurenteed, Level 2 15/30 and havent played a hand, not much info on the table.

Im on BB
UTG +1 calls
Mid Position calls
SB calls 15

I have 

Flop is  three diamonds

I bet 90
UTG+1 calls
Mid Pos. calls
SB fold

Turn is  three clubs

I bet 150
UTG+1 folds
Mid Pos. calls

River is 

I bet 240

Matey Boy goes allin and he has me covered.

Do you call or fold?
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2008, 05:58:45 PM »

very easy call.
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2008, 06:06:44 PM »

I did and he had KK which I certainly didnt expect, I was more worried about JJ or TT, so with 3 potencial better hands beating me I still call?

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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2008, 06:34:17 PM »

Colddeckaments!

I don't think you ever pass here, and its hard to put him on KK the way the hand plays out.  I can't believe that he doesn't raise pre, its at these early stages of the tournament when players can get in cheaply that big hand get turned over.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2008, 06:34:44 PM »

I did and he had KK which I certainly didnt expect, I was more worried about JJ or TT, so with 3 potencial better hands beating me I still call?



Yeah you can't be folding full houses, Suzanne. KK is indeed unexpected ..limping with it from mid positiong is just about criminal I think.

It's harsh but if someone has a better full house that's just unlucky. You can't doubt yourself over something like this. when you have a full house in holdem you are very rarely behind.
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2008, 06:36:34 PM »

usually in this spot i have AA and cant believe K3 just crushed me after slowplaying my monster


call every time
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2008, 06:40:35 PM »

usually in this spot i have AA and cant believe K3 just crushed me after slowplaying my monster


LOL! 

limping with it from mid positiong is just about criminal I think.


Me in boldie on agreement that can't be right!
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2008, 06:43:27 PM »

Call every time.

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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2008, 06:53:22 PM »

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I was more worried about JJ or TT, so with 3 potencial better hands beating me I still call?

You have to also consider what you're ahead of that he might play the same way, not just what you're losing to. He could easily have KT, KJ, AQ, even AK, as well as the case 3. Then consider that there are 16 possible combinations that he can have just of AQ - but only 9 possible combinations that he can hold of TT/JJ/KK combined. (And you have to discount the likelihood of them, as he didn't raise preflop). So even excluding the real possibility that he's an idiot doing this with nothing, you're miles and miles ahead of his range of legitimate hands. Unlucky!
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2008, 07:39:17 PM »

You have bet for information, the guy has told you he has a close to nut hand, you must now pass the non-nut hand.
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2008, 07:41:16 PM »

You have bet for information, the guy has told you he has a close to nut hand, you must now pass the non-nut hand.

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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2008, 08:12:01 PM »

Yeah you can't be folding full houses, Suzanne. KK is indeed unexpected ..limping with it from mid positiong is just about criminal I think.

nothing to say about his way to play after the flop, but IMO it's many more criminal to limp with KK with a dude who limps before him...
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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2008, 09:16:10 PM »

lol. Hand shows pretty well how important hand-reading is. but there really is no point to this thread.
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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2008, 09:36:35 PM »

Surely with this you will have to play the hand based on how you read the player?

When all is said and done you do not have the nuts, just close, and how many times do you need to hear - always look at what could beat you not what you have.

A house is a fine hand, just remember that it is beatable.

That said mind you can't fold everything all the time because it might be beat or you'll actually turn into a rock lol
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2008, 11:42:47 PM »

Why is there no point to the thread?

I cant believe im actually agreeing with Flushy here.

He was flat calling all the way so I have no idea if I am ahead, his allin on the river suggests he has a better hand, it was  very early in the tourney so im also thinking that he could have been trying to steal the pot with the range of hands that Moskvich pointed out.

The reason I posted is because given the same circumstances I would probably do the same again given that I no information on the table and there was no reraise. I think if he had reraised me on the river I might have folded as alarm bells were ringing very loud, the allin seemed a bit desperate.

So far we have

Call                                          Fold                                              On the fence

Boldie                                      Flushy                                            Bhoywonder
GlasgowBandit                                                                               Jpean
Newportlad                                                                                   Grey Pete
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and Alex Martin..was there any point in your post!!

I very nearly folded..does that mean im nearly a rock?
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