A ruling please.....

[K9sixtwo]

In a tourney a player has to leave the game.. due to entirely unforseen circumstances.. what happens to his stack?
Three suggestions..1) his stack remains but gets blinded out 2) his chips are shared out amongst the other players on the table or 3) His chip stack is withdrawn.. I must say i favour 3) as it withdraws him entirely.. 2) disadvantages other tables and 1) skews the tables natural ying and yang ..if you will!!

any views appreciated??

[Laxie]

I'd nearly go with the 'blinded out' theory.  Also, pretty sure I read somewhere, that after maybe 10 or 20 minutes, there is a blind into the pot every hand.

[jakally]

I favour the blinding away option - but that's possibly because I have played loads more online than live and that's what I'm used to.

[boldie]

In a tourney a player has to leave the game.. due to entirely unforseen circumstances.. what happens to his stack?
Three suggestions..1) his stack remains but gets blinded out 2) his chips are shared out amongst the other players on the table or 3) His chip stack is withdrawn.. I must say i favour 3) as it withdraws him entirely.. 2) disadvantages other tables and 1) skews the tables natural ying and yang ..if you will!!

any views appreciated??

I believe a while ago there was something like this that happened in a fairly decent sized tourney (TJ reported on it happening, I think) and the players chips were removed from the table.

[ZAC]

Hi K9
        We would withdraw the chips from play.

[kinboshi]

Withdrawing the chips and then balancing the tables ASAP appears to be the fairest way at first glance.

Like jakally said, that's not how it's done online (for obvious reasons, such as how would the card room know a player isn't coming back), and I've also been in tournaments where the player is blinded out normally, or is blinded out each hand.  This certainly isn't the fairest way as players on other tables are disadvantaged, and also players in specific seats will have an advantage.

Is there a 'standard' rule, or is it each venue doing its own thing again?

[Geo the Sarge]

I'm not saying I'm against it, however if someone pre-registers and then doesn't turn up then their chips are left and they are blinded out. Happened recently when an empty chair was applauded on it's exit from an APAT tourney.

Why does someone that has possibly fell ill not get the same opportunity.


Geo

[kinboshi]

I'm not saying I'm against it, however if someone pre-registers and then doesn't turn up then their chips are left and they are blinded out. Happened recently when an empty chair was applauded on it's exit from an APAT tourney.

Why does someone that has possibly fell ill not get the same opportunity.


Geo

The OP is saying the player has to leave (and I took it from that, that they're not going to be returning).  If they are coming back, then they are just blinded away as if there were sat at the table and folding every hand.

[Geo the Sarge]

I'm not saying I'm against it, however if someone pre-registers and then doesn't turn up then their chips are left and they are blinded out. Happened recently when an empty chair was applauded on it's exit from an APAT tourney.

Why does someone that has possibly fell ill not get the same opportunity.


Geo

The OP is saying the player has to leave (and I took it from that, that they're not going to be returning).  If they are coming back, then they are just blinded away as if there were sat at the table and folding every hand.

Still doesn't change anything imo. The person pays for their chips and therefore should be able to do what they want with them (except cheating of course.) I had a situation at one of the OP tourneys where I was ill but managed to luckbox to the FT. At one point I had to leave the table and was violently sick. On this occaission I was ok to return and complete the game.

But what if I had felt so ill that I couldn't continue? would I not be entitled to leave my chips at the table in an attempt to ladder?

Geo

[gatso]

In a tourney a player has to leave the game.. due to entirely unforseen circumstances.. what happens to his stack?
Three suggestions..1) his stack remains but gets blinded out 2) his chips are shared out amongst the other players on the table or 3) His chip stack is withdrawn.. I must say i favour 3) as it withdraws him entirely.. 2) disadvantages other tables and 1) skews the tables natural ying and yang ..if you will!!

any views appreciated??

option 2 is the most ridiculous suggestion, favours the shortstack and we all hate the shortstack.

option 3 almost as bad imo. let's say 2 players leave at the same time from different tables, 1 informs the TD, 1 doesn't. now 1 table gets free blinds and the other just gets a stack removed

option 1 please and only ever option 1.

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I believe a while ago there was something like this that happened in a fairly decent sized tourney (TJ reported on it happening, I think) and the players chips were removed from the table.

I assume you're talking about the Ali Mallu case. his chips were removed as he received a casino ban half-way through the tourney, this was probably the correct decision to prevent him laddering. very different from someone just going home

[Royal Flush]

Obv option 1, the rest are ridic

[gatso]

Hi K9
        We would withdraw the chips from play.

why?

in fact let me repharase that

why, why, why, why, why?

[tikay]

Option 1.

Options 2 & 3 are not options.

The line that it "disadvantages players on another tale" holds no water. Sometimes the wind blows with you, sometimes against you, life is like that. It's no big deal if a few chips are in, or out, of reach. It's 1.5 BB's per orbit! 

[dik9]

Only Ever Option 1

Malu's case was completely different.

[gatso]

I'd nearly go with the 'blinded out' theory.  Also, pretty sure I read somewhere, that after maybe 10 or 20 minutes, there is a blind into the pot every hand.

and also no, no, no, no, no to the BB paid every hand. hopefully most venues that used to do that have now stopped