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Longy
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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July 13, 2008, 03:55:26 AM »
Cue controversial post, while under the influence.
Some of the diarys on blonde are very good (well 2 of them imo) but as with everything i feel we are saturating the site with stuff that is uninteresting and stuff that frankly is uninteresting to anyone that doesn't know the person personally.
Imo blonde is selling itself short with sub standard nonesense, that is better put in blogs. No offense to anyone in particular but if you want to talk about your poker life there are ways and means that don't involve posting on blonde.
Tikay will no doubt disagree with me and it his ball and he will do what he likes with it, but these diaries are a mistake imo.
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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July 13, 2008, 05:04:30 AM »
Quote from: Longy on July 13, 2008, 03:55:26 AM
Cue controversial post, while under the influence.
Some of the diarys on blonde are very good (well 2 of them imo) but as with everything i feel we are saturating the site with stuff that is uninteresting and stuff that frankly is uninteresting to anyone that doesn't know the person personally.
Imo blonde is selling itself short with sub standard nonesense, that is better put in blogs. No offense to anyone in particular but if you want to talk about your poker life there are ways and means that don't involve posting on blonde.
Tikay will no doubt disagree with me and it his ball and he will do what he likes with it, but these diaries are a mistake imo.
Hi Longy,
Well I like that you end your Post with "imo", because these things are wholly subjective.
I suppose - unurprisingly! - I do disagree, but only in that I look at it differently.
I see it as "each to their own", & "live & let live".
Take these examples......
Battrick Thread. 190 pages, 2,842 replies, 14,600 views.
soccermnager.com, 1,460 replies, 8,396 views, 98 pages.
Two Word Poker Story. 5,470 replies - in the all time Top Ten threads.
4,000 SNG's in 2 months, 22,000+ views.
Or all those Football Threads.
The current fashon is Staking Threads, everyone is up for them.
I can't be arsed to open them. Does that make them bad? No, of course not! Just not to my taste, that's all.
Clearly, a lot of readers enjoy them, the Stats don't lie. Me? I've never opened them, as they are not my thing. But what's wrong with letting them run if others enjoy them? Just because I, or you, don't enjoy them, does not mean they should be removed, or dis-couraged. Or that we should, if we don't like them, complain about them. Live & let live.
Diaries? Personally, I'm encouraging others to write them, because I like them, or some of them, & there may be hidden diamonds in there - Snat & Tighty are good examples. IMO, of course! But I'm not encourging people to read them, or not read them - that's their choice. Should they have their own board? I'm ambivelant. Maybe one day, maybe not, it's not an issue either way. There are far bigger issues than that to sort out.
But this I do disagree with.......
Imo blonde is selling itself short with sub standard nonesense
What are you suggesting? We set up a committee to veto stuff whch we like or don't like?! That would be unthinkable. Folks can write what they like, about what they like, surely? Who decides if it's sub-standard? Readers do! They read stuff if they like it, they don't if they don't. I'm really struggling to see why that's a problem. I loathe ITV (Telly) but it does not exercise my mind - I just don't watch it.
I'm acutely conscious of the fact that some readers don't like Diaries, they remind us frequently. But the converse is also true. Some love them. Some Diaries are not written for others. I don't have an issue with them being "parked" on blonde.
Ditto with 2 word story, Battrick, soccemanager.
I hope someone can explain to me why "live & let live", & "each to their own", is such an issue. They'll do well!
Long may variety reign. And freedom to write, or read, whatever we like. And ignore what we don't.
Writing creatively, starting interesting new Threads, is not something everyone can do, some can only "respond", not "start". But I don't think we should discourage it.
From time to time, really poor-quality threads begin. They soon die. In their own time.
Have you read the story of Rook's Greyhounds? It's fascinating - we, the blondes, feel those dogs are ours. We want them to do well, we will back them when they run. Rooks has written that with real passion, & many of us love it. Any many loathe it. It has nowt to do with Poker, not one word of it, but I'd hate it not to be here, & I'm proud it is. We see Rooks thissing & thatting on Poker threads, but look at the passion in his eyes & writing when he talks about Cassie!
Hope you are well, & I'll see you at
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next week I hope.
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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Reply #62 on:
July 13, 2008, 12:40:00 PM »
Quote from: tikay on July 13, 2008, 05:04:30 AM
Quote from: Longy on July 13, 2008, 03:55:26 AM
Cue controversial post, while under the influence.
Some of the diarys on blonde are very good (well 2 of them imo) but as with everything i feel we are saturating the site with stuff that is uninteresting and stuff that frankly is uninteresting to anyone that doesn't know the person personally.
Imo blonde is selling itself short with sub standard nonesense, that is better put in blogs. No offense to anyone in particular but if you want to talk about your poker life there are ways and means that don't involve posting on blonde.
Tikay will no doubt disagree with me and it his ball and he will do what he likes with it, but these diaries are a mistake imo.
Hi Longy,
Well I like that you end your Post with "imo", because these things are wholly subjective.
I suppose - unurprisingly! - I do disagree, but only in that I look at it differently.
I see it as "each to their own", & "live & let live".
Take these examples......
Battrick Thread. 190 pages, 2,842 replies, 14,600 views.
soccermnager.com, 1,460 replies, 8,396 views, 98 pages.
Two Word Poker Story. 5,470 replies - in the all time Top Ten threads.
4,000 SNG's in 2 months, 22,000+ views.
Or all those Football Threads.
The current fashon is Staking Threads, everyone is up for them.
I can't be arsed to open them. Does that make them bad? No, of course not! Just not to my taste, that's all.
Clearly, a lot of readers enjoy them, the Stats don't lie. Me? I've never opened them, as they are not my thing. But what's wrong with letting them run if others enjoy them? Just because I, or you, don't enjoy them, does not mean they should be removed, or dis-couraged. Or that we should, if we don't like them, complain about them. Live & let live.
Diaries? Personally, I'm encouraging others to write them, because I like them, or some of them, & there may be hidden diamonds in there - Snat & Tighty are good examples. IMO, of course! But I'm not encourging people to read them, or not read them - that's their choice. Should they have their own board? I'm ambivelant. Maybe one day, maybe not, it's not an issue either way. There are far bigger issues than that to sort out.
But this I do disagree with.......
Imo blonde is selling itself short with sub standard nonesense
What are you suggesting? We set up a committee to veto stuff whch we like or don't like?! That would be unthinkable. Folks can write what they like, about what they like, surely? Who decides if it's sub-standard? Readers do! They read stuff if they like it, they don't if they don't. I'm really struggling to see why that's a problem. I loathe ITV (Telly) but it does not exercise my mind - I just don't watch it.
I'm acutely conscious of the fact that some readers don't like Diaries, they remind us frequently. But the converse is also true. Some love them. Some Diaries are not written for others. I don't have an issue with them being "parked" on blonde.
Ditto with 2 word story, Battrick, soccemanager.
I hope someone can explain to me why "live & let live", & "each to their own", is such an issue. They'll do well!
Long may variety reign. And freedom to write, or read, whatever we like. And ignore what we don't.
Writing creatively, starting interesting new Threads, is not something everyone can do, some can only "respond", not "start". But I don't think we should discourage it.
From time to time, really poor-quality threads begin. They soon die. In their own time.
Have you read the story of Rook's Greyhounds? It's fascinating - we, the blondes, feel those dogs are ours. We want them to do well, we will back them when they run. Rooks has written that with real passion, & many of us love it. Any many loathe it. It has nowt to do with Poker, not one word of it, but I'd hate it not to be here, & I'm proud it is. We see Rooks thissing & thatting on Poker threads, but look at the passion in his eyes & writing when he talks about Cassie!
Hope you are well, & I'll see you at
DT
D
next week I hope.
Thanks for the reply tikay, unsurprisingly now im sober i regret the tone of my last post. Though I still think we have too many diaries but each to their own.
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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July 13, 2008, 01:13:50 PM »
can we please put them in the lounge though? even those with a large poker content belong there imo as this is the community section of the site. as I've stated previously the rail really is not the place, this is where we should have poker related threads that are of interest to all. having all these diaries in the rail will put off newcomers to the site, this is not imo, it's FACT. think I'll quote myself just to make the point as I cba to re-write my thoughts on the subject.
Quote from: gatso on July 02, 2008, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on July 02, 2008, 01:49:07 PM
There's only 5 of them on page 1 of "The Rail" main page and 2 might go away after Vegas so I can't see the problem.
Maybe if they start taking up 1/3 of the page then move them but otherwise leave 'em for now imo.
It's only when diaries dominate the thread that they need their own little space.
have to disagree with this. for starters I make it 6 of the top 12 non-stickied threads on the rail plus this one discussing them.
now imo if diaries are not to get their own board they need to be moved to the lounge unless they are specifically poker related.
imagine a newcomer to blonde, they've just heard about this great poker forum, UK's busiest, and think it'll be a great place for them to go, learn about the game and improve. they find their way to the rail where they expect to find discussions on poker and start reading through some of the threads at the top of the page.
pictures of Rich's kids in the nets. is this newcomer going to think this is the place for them to learn the game or are they going to fuck off?
all these threads have a place on blonde and a very important place at that, it's just not on the rail. if no new board then at least move them to the lounge
in fact as I write this it's now 8 of the top 12 non-stickied threads in the rail that are diaries. I guarantee you're losing customers who come on and pretty much all they can find are strangers' diaries.
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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July 13, 2008, 01:58:19 PM »
Quote from: gatso on July 13, 2008, 01:13:50 PM
can we please put them in the lounge though? even those with a large poker content belong there imo as this is the community section of the site. as I've stated previously the rail really is not the place, this is where we should have poker related threads that are of interest to all. having all these diaries in the rail will put off newcomers to the site, this is not imo, it's FACT. think I'll quote myself just to make the point as I cba to re-write my thoughts on the subject.
Quote from: gatso on July 02, 2008, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on July 02, 2008, 01:49:07 PM
There's only 5 of them on page 1 of "The Rail" main page and 2 might go away after Vegas so I can't see the problem.
Maybe if they start taking up 1/3 of the page then move them but otherwise leave 'em for now imo.
It's only when diaries dominate the thread that they need their own little space.
have to disagree with this. for starters I make it 6 of the top 12 non-stickied threads on the rail plus this one discussing them.
now imo if diaries are not to get their own board they need to be moved to the lounge unless they are specifically poker related.
imagine a newcomer to blonde, they've just heard about this great poker forum, UK's busiest, and think it'll be a great place for them to go, learn about the game and improve. they find their way to the rail where they expect to find discussions on poker and start reading through some of the threads at the top of the page.
pictures of Rich's kids in the nets. is this newcomer going to think this is the place for them to learn the game or are they going to fuck off?
all these threads have a place on blonde and a very important place at that, it's just not on the rail. if no new board then at least move them to the lounge
in fact as I write this it's now 8 of the top 12 non-stickied threads in the rail that are diaries. I guarantee you're losing customers who come on and pretty much all they can find are strangers' diaries.
Ive allways thought they should be in the lounge too, even the ones containing more poker.
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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Reply #65 on:
July 13, 2008, 02:05:20 PM »
Quote from: Tractor on July 13, 2008, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: gatso on July 13, 2008, 01:13:50 PM
can we please put them in the lounge though? even those with a large poker content belong there imo as this is the community section of the site. as I've stated previously the rail really is not the place, this is where we should have poker related threads that are of interest to all. having all these diaries in the rail will put off newcomers to the site, this is not imo, it's FACT. think I'll quote myself just to make the point as I cba to re-write my thoughts on the subject.
Quote from: gatso on July 02, 2008, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on July 02, 2008, 01:49:07 PM
There's only 5 of them on page 1 of "The Rail" main page and 2 might go away after Vegas so I can't see the problem.
Maybe if they start taking up 1/3 of the page then move them but otherwise leave 'em for now imo.
It's only when diaries dominate the thread that they need their own little space.
have to disagree with this. for starters I make it 6 of the top 12 non-stickied threads on the rail plus this one discussing them.
now imo if diaries are not to get their own board they need to be moved to the lounge unless they are specifically poker related.
imagine a newcomer to blonde, they've just heard about this great poker forum, UK's busiest, and think it'll be a great place for them to go, learn about the game and improve. they find their way to the rail where they expect to find discussions on poker and start reading through some of the threads at the top of the page.
pictures of Rich's kids in the nets. is this newcomer going to think this is the place for them to learn the game or are they going to fuck off?
all these threads have a place on blonde and a very important place at that, it's just not on the rail. if no new board then at least move them to the lounge
in fact as I write this it's now 8 of the top 12 non-stickied threads in the rail that are diaries. I guarantee you're losing customers who come on and pretty much all they can find are strangers' diaries.
Ive allways thought they should be in the lounge too, even the ones containing more poker.
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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Is there anyone who disagrees with moving them to the lounge ?
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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July 13, 2008, 02:19:08 PM »
Quote from: Colchester Kev on July 13, 2008, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: Tractor on July 13, 2008, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: gatso on July 13, 2008, 01:13:50 PM
can we please put them in the lounge though? even those with a large poker content belong there imo as this is the community section of the site. as I've stated previously the rail really is not the place, this is where we should have poker related threads that are of interest to all. having all these diaries in the rail will put off newcomers to the site, this is not imo, it's FACT. think I'll quote myself just to make the point as I cba to re-write my thoughts on the subject.
Quote from: gatso on July 02, 2008, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on July 02, 2008, 01:49:07 PM
There's only 5 of them on page 1 of "The Rail" main page and 2 might go away after Vegas so I can't see the problem.
Maybe if they start taking up 1/3 of the page then move them but otherwise leave 'em for now imo.
It's only when diaries dominate the thread that they need their own little space.
have to disagree with this. for starters I make it 6 of the top 12 non-stickied threads on the rail plus this one discussing them.
now imo if diaries are not to get their own board they need to be moved to the lounge unless they are specifically poker related.
imagine a newcomer to blonde, they've just heard about this great poker forum, UK's busiest, and think it'll be a great place for them to go, learn about the game and improve. they find their way to the rail where they expect to find discussions on poker and start reading through some of the threads at the top of the page.
pictures of Rich's kids in the nets. is this newcomer going to think this is the place for them to learn the game or are they going to fuck off?
all these threads have a place on blonde and a very important place at that, it's just not on the rail. if no new board then at least move them to the lounge
in fact as I write this it's now 8 of the top 12 non-stickied threads in the rail that are diaries. I guarantee you're losing customers who come on and pretty much all they can find are strangers' diaries.
Ive allways thought they should be in the lounge too, even the ones containing more poker.
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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July 13, 2008, 02:19:40 PM »
Quote from: Colchester Kev on July 13, 2008, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: Tractor on July 13, 2008, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: gatso on July 13, 2008, 01:13:50 PM
can we please put them in the lounge though? even those with a large poker content belong there imo as this is the community section of the site. as I've stated previously the rail really is not the place, this is where we should have poker related threads that are of interest to all. having all these diaries in the rail will put off newcomers to the site, this is not imo, it's FACT. think I'll quote myself just to make the point as I cba to re-write my thoughts on the subject.
Quote from: gatso on July 02, 2008, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on July 02, 2008, 01:49:07 PM
There's only 5 of them on page 1 of "The Rail" main page and 2 might go away after Vegas so I can't see the problem.
Maybe if they start taking up 1/3 of the page then move them but otherwise leave 'em for now imo.
It's only when diaries dominate the thread that they need their own little space.
have to disagree with this. for starters I make it 6 of the top 12 non-stickied threads on the rail plus this one discussing them.
now imo if diaries are not to get their own board they need to be moved to the lounge unless they are specifically poker related.
imagine a newcomer to blonde, they've just heard about this great poker forum, UK's busiest, and think it'll be a great place for them to go, learn about the game and improve. they find their way to the rail where they expect to find discussions on poker and start reading through some of the threads at the top of the page.
pictures of Rich's kids in the nets. is this newcomer going to think this is the place for them to learn the game or are they going to fuck off?
all these threads have a place on blonde and a very important place at that, it's just not on the rail. if no new board then at least move them to the lounge
in fact as I write this it's now 8 of the top 12 non-stickied threads in the rail that are diaries. I guarantee you're losing customers who come on and pretty much all they can find are strangers' diaries.
Ive allways thought they should be in the lounge too, even the ones containing more poker.
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I suppose i should add some behind the scenes info here ...
We have/still are discussing the diaries in the mods room, opinion is divided on the "best" course of action, pretty much the same as on here really.
Obviously the views of the members are taken into consideration when we debate such topics, and im sure we will make a decision soon enough.
My personal view is that I dont think we need a "diary board" , but i do think they should be in "the Lounge"
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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July 13, 2008, 02:21:02 PM »
How about just putting the diaries in a different colour font so they can be spotted easier
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July 13, 2008, 02:36:41 PM »
Quote from: mondatoo on July 13, 2008, 02:07:00 PM
Is there anyone who disagrees with moving them to the lounge ?
Not me, I'd prefer it too as I am still wading through a couple and they would be alot easier to find.
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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July 13, 2008, 03:10:30 PM »
Quote from: Colchester Kev on July 13, 2008, 02:19:40 PM
Quote from: Colchester Kev on July 13, 2008, 02:05:20 PM
Quote from: Tractor on July 13, 2008, 01:58:19 PM
Quote from: gatso on July 13, 2008, 01:13:50 PM
can we please put them in the lounge though? even those with a large poker content belong there imo as this is the community section of the site. as I've stated previously the rail really is not the place, this is where we should have poker related threads that are of interest to all. having all these diaries in the rail will put off newcomers to the site, this is not imo, it's FACT. think I'll quote myself just to make the point as I cba to re-write my thoughts on the subject.
Quote from: gatso on July 02, 2008, 02:07:37 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on July 02, 2008, 01:49:07 PM
There's only 5 of them on page 1 of "The Rail" main page and 2 might go away after Vegas so I can't see the problem.
Maybe if they start taking up 1/3 of the page then move them but otherwise leave 'em for now imo.
It's only when diaries dominate the thread that they need their own little space.
have to disagree with this. for starters I make it 6 of the top 12 non-stickied threads on the rail plus this one discussing them.
now imo if diaries are not to get their own board they need to be moved to the lounge unless they are specifically poker related.
imagine a newcomer to blonde, they've just heard about this great poker forum, UK's busiest, and think it'll be a great place for them to go, learn about the game and improve. they find their way to the rail where they expect to find discussions on poker and start reading through some of the threads at the top of the page.
pictures of Rich's kids in the nets. is this newcomer going to think this is the place for them to learn the game or are they going to fuck off?
all these threads have a place on blonde and a very important place at that, it's just not on the rail. if no new board then at least move them to the lounge
in fact as I write this it's now 8 of the top 12 non-stickied threads in the rail that are diaries. I guarantee you're losing customers who come on and pretty much all they can find are strangers' diaries.
Ive allways thought they should be in the lounge too, even the ones containing more poker.
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I suppose i should add some behind the scenes info here ...
We have/still are discussing the diaries in the mods room, opinion is divided on the "best" course of action, pretty much the same as on here really.
Obviously the views of the members are taken into consideration when we debate such topics, and im sure we will make a decision soon enough.
My personal view is that I dont think we need a "diary board" , but i do think they should be in "the Lounge"
own board or lounge i think.
imo the problems with the diary's are that good posters come on blonde to write on their diary's and neglect to post on most of the other forum, conversely people that would otherwise spens a lot of time reading the forum in it's entirety dont seem to post as often now unless it's on one of the big diary's and i see the forum as a whole suffer for it.
I just started dropping into tikays diary for the updates but have missed a years worth the same with red-dogs so im not going to get into them now (but the other day i did read tightys one from the start which i liked so will probably keep up with that now and then but thats because ive now read it from the start) but the point about tightys is it doesnt really contain that much poker, why should it be on the poker board?
I cant really comment on the quality of anyones elses as i havnt read them but i agree having all these non poker related diarys jamming up the most popular board will be ostracising for new members and exasperating for existing members indifferent to the non poker related goings on of the writer.
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Re: Put everyone's diaries/blonde blogs on a new board
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July 13, 2008, 04:31:24 PM »
I disagree with moving the diaries, particularly Red's, Tikay's and Tighty's as the poker content on them is some of the better poker postings on the Rail.
Some could be moved because they don't have the poker content, but that's a bit insulting to tell people their diary doesn't deserve to be on the Rail.
In the end it's easy to not bother reading if you don't want to so I'd say leave them where they are. If anyone WANTS theirs moved however, it's easilly done if they ask a Mod.
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July 13, 2008, 04:36:34 PM »
Surely this thread should be in the lounge too
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July 13, 2008, 04:36:46 PM »
Quote from: Rod Paradise on July 13, 2008, 04:31:24 PM
I disagree with moving the diaries, particularly Red's, Tikay's and Tighty's as the poker content on them is some of the better poker postings on the Rail.
Some could be moved because they don't have the poker content, but that's a bit insulting to tell people their diary doesn't deserve to be on the Rail.
In the end it's easy to not bother reading if you don't want to
so I'd say leave them where they are. If anyone WANTS theirs moved however, it's easilly done if they ask a Mod.
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Quote from: action man
im not speculating, either, but id have been pretty peeved if i missed the thread and i ended up getting clipped, kindly accepting a lift home.
In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.
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