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« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2008, 11:35:22 AM » |
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I also like AA players shove on the flop here. PF action suggests at least 1 opponent has KK, AK, AQ and it's likely these holdings stack off here
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« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2008, 12:03:00 PM » |
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Looking at the bets alone, with no info, he could be a mug overvaluing a pair of 9's but we just don't know this player yet.
so and I am assuming this is a live game, what other info is on offer preflop?
was the re raise from EP a snap raise?
Any physical tells?
has there been any change in behaviour?
surely there must be more info that just the bets available.
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« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2008, 01:35:30 PM » |
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you can never ever ever fold this flop imo
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« Reply #33 on: July 22, 2008, 02:17:31 PM » |
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Does EP even have a hand?
I have seen it a few times where people like to get it in on the first orbit just to send a message.
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« Reply #34 on: July 22, 2008, 03:06:30 PM » |
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Does EP even have a hand?
I have seen it a few times where people like to get it in on the first orbit just to send a message.
It was an APAT event - the chances of this happening are zero... |
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« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2008, 03:45:22 PM » |
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Ok, considering the preflop action it can only be AA, interesting play on the flop.
I guess he knew at least one of the opponents would have an almost impossible to fold under set
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« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2008, 03:48:21 PM » |
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There are morons that 3 - 4 bet AK - AQ, Gladly I am not in this group, could this chap be in this category?
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« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2008, 04:43:04 PM » |
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when is the conundrum going to be posted?
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« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2008, 04:44:04 PM » |
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After countdown.
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I watch the world outside
By the way, I'm leaving out today
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« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2008, 05:08:27 PM » |
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After countdown.
Is Carol coming to tell us the answer?  |
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« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2008, 05:10:00 PM » |
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After countdown.
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« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2008, 05:13:07 PM » |
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After countdown.
Is Carol coming to tell us the answer? Lol - absolute quality |
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« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2008, 05:36:08 PM » |
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Ok nobody except me is thinking of folding here, i wish i'd not knowing the outcome however,i've answered honestly how i see it.
I don't understand why if we don't put him on aces then why aren't we re-raising pre with KK we could rr to around 5k if he calls do we not then get our answer and half our stack left why flat call it and then "see what happens".I personally don't think i'm going busto 1st orbit at 25/50 with 10k starting stack and such a good structure with KK
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« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2008, 05:41:05 PM » |
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I personally don't think i'm going busto 1st orbit at 25/50 with 10k starting stack and such a good structure with KK
then you're never going to get full value from your KK either on all the other occasions when you're ahead as you're playing scared with it just because it's early in the comp. |
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« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2008, 06:12:25 PM » |
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I personally don't think i'm going busto 1st orbit at 25/50 with 10k starting stack and such a good structure with KK
then you're never going to get full value from your KK either on all the other occasions when you're ahead as you're playing scared with it just because it's early in the comp. So you've just started and have no info on anyone but you want to see a flop were his range is aa/kk/ak/aq/qq(questionable).If you rr as i'm suggesting and he calls what is his range know? If he folds we rake in decent pot an str8 away have increased our stack by nearly a 3rd.If this was half an hour to an hour in this would be totally different situation imo but it's not it's like the 3rd hand or summit.Maybe i'm wrong but most seem to feel the optimal play is flat calling pre and then on a low board all the chips are going in i just don't see how this is the correct play to make? |
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