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Josedinho
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Ryder Cup
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September 16, 2008, 12:53:22 PM »
For me this is up there with the Lions tours as the best non-football sporting event. It's so much better than watching any other golf.
I've looked at the odds and Europe are odds against? How? I'm thinking of backing us big. In fact i fancy us in alot of markets (to win day 1, to win day 2, to win day 3, winning after day 1, winning after day 2, first team to go 1 up, first team to score a point) but i wanted to know if there was some major reason why USA are now just about the same odds as us to win it?
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Re: Ryder Cup
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September 16, 2008, 12:55:14 PM »
Home advantage i'd imagine as player for player Europe have it...
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Re: Ryder Cup
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September 16, 2008, 12:56:23 PM »
Right now Betfair has:
Europe - 2.04
USA - 2.28
Tie - 13.5
If you can get odds against at a bookies I'd take it.
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Re: Ryder Cup
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September 16, 2008, 01:04:47 PM »
I want the US in this if they move to slight underdogs.
Not much in the teams, particularly as the bottom 5-6 of the European team are so inexperienced compared to normal teams
A lot of the US team know the course v v well too, watch out for J B Holmes
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September 16, 2008, 01:06:52 PM »
I want Europe to smash the septics, but I want Poulter to lose every match.
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September 16, 2008, 01:08:27 PM »
Being at home is a significant advantage, but so to is the fact that Tiger Woods is not playing. I am of the understanding that the American team is much more united without Tiger, and the players also want to show that they can win without him. He is not respected anywhere near as much by his countrymen as he is everywhere else in the world, and there is a firm belief that they will perform better without him.
It is also felt that Nick Faldo has made a couple of major errors already, firstly with the fact that he is only taking Olazabel to help him. I, as many others believe that he needs more help out on the course, and more experience in making the key decisions on partnerships and final day positions. Also in his wild card picks he has not picked players in form, and coupled with the inexperience of some of the players, Europe could be up against it.
I sincerely hope that i am wrong, but i think that the USA will win the Ryder Cup this year.
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September 16, 2008, 01:11:53 PM »
Aye looking forward to this
I agree I think he should have made a few more co-captains
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Quote from: Acidmouse on September 16, 2008, 01:11:53 PM
Aye looking forward to this
I agree I think he should have made a few more co-captains
Why?
What do these co-captains actually do?
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Re: Ryder Cup
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September 16, 2008, 01:21:19 PM »
Quote from: Colchester Kev on September 16, 2008, 01:06:52 PM
I want Europe to smash the septics, but I want Poulter to lose every match.
LOL my mate also thinks he is a knob but did think one of his quotes was brilliant.
When asked what is the worst thing anyone had said to him he replied "It's still you"
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Quote from: AndrewT on September 16, 2008, 01:13:31 PM
Quote from: Acidmouse on September 16, 2008, 01:11:53 PM
Aye looking forward to this
I agree I think he should have made a few more co-captains
Why?
What do these co-captains actually do?
Not so much co-captains, but people out with each group, telling him who is playing well in the morning, who seems to be struggling and should maybe not play in the afternoon - little things like that can make all the difference.
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September 16, 2008, 01:26:15 PM »
has he not taken Monty to help then? big mistake if not imo. if you're not having him playing you should still have him there, no-one else has his recent ryder cup experience coupled with his knowledge of both teams players
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Quote from: TheChipPrince on September 16, 2008, 12:55:14 PM
Home advantage i'd imagine as player for player Europe have it...
Not according to World Rankings we don't !!
I really want Europe to win this again but I'm afraid I just can't see it as Faldo has left himself with very few obvious partnerships, unless I'm wrong he has Garcia and Westwood/Stenson, Casey and Poulter/Rose, Harrington and Mcdowell after that he's struggling for natural partnerships which is why leaving Clarke out was unbelievable.
I just think that this time round for the first time in years Europe doesn't have a player who you could pretty much pair with any other member of the team and make a decent partnership (like Langer used to and I think someone like Darren Clarke could), Luke Donald is a big miss I think as he'd have made a great partner for Oliver Wilson who may well have to be paired with either Casey or Westwood now which means splitting one of his top partnerships.
Also agree with the point about Faldo only having Olazabal for help on the course, that's not enough people IMO.
So I can see a US win this time (I just hope it's close).
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September 16, 2008, 01:27:36 PM »
Faldo's strength-his impregnable self belief-can also be his weakness
With 4 matches on the go, its usual to have "spotters"/asssistants usually called vice or co captains on each group reporting to the captain so as to help formulate future strategy etc
Faldo could be a brilliant captain, but he's unlikey to be as inclusive as most and it will be interesting to see if European team spirit is there, as it was say fantastically last time in Ireland, when things go a bit pear shaped as they are bound to occasionally
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Quote from: gatso on September 16, 2008, 01:26:15 PM
has he not taken Monty to help then
? big mistake if not imo. if you're not having him playing you should still have him there, no-one else has his recent ryder cup experience coupled with his knowledge of both teams players
You just wanted to see the ensuing fight if he had
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Re: Ryder Cup
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September 16, 2008, 01:32:01 PM »
I also fancy the americans for this ,it's so strange that tiger not being there can be a positive for them.Also have my doubts about faldo.
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