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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2008, 06:10:04 PM »

fwiw and not a lot to this hand i had  last night on a  flop and me and compo got it all in on the flop for about 150 BB. Compo obv had 10 10. If i were you tho i wouldnt pass.
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2008, 07:14:54 PM »

no way nick has AA or KK here ever
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« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2008, 07:18:56 PM »

no way nick has AA or KK here ever

yeah lol obv and AKs is super unlikely.
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« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2008, 07:23:37 PM »

this sounds very much like the Rupinder Bedi hand at dtd last night

555 v 10 10 10, turn 5 river 10

p.s I'm not folding here.

p.p.s Nick's range here is far wider than the over-set.
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2008, 07:57:48 PM »

jesus. his range is combos and 77. get it innnnnnn all day long.
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2008, 01:03:12 AM »

Wow - I thought you were full of it saying you had a set of 5's here. I guess I was wrong lol.

I'm still really surprised if you pitched a set here. As I said immediately after the hand, if I were you I would of snapped me off in this spot because I have a draw a lot of the time. I'd never pass a set here on this board and our stacks.  As a few have rightly said I'll weak lead/3 bet with combo draws, sets and top 2 here to balance so you'll always have good equity with bottom set vs my range here. This time I had T7 soooted for top 2. I was the straddler btw (which was live) and obv defended last to act Smiley

As an unknown (in a usually very fishy £1/£2 game) I could only put you on a pretty broad range of: lots of possible draws/worse 2 pair/maybe overpair and I'm obviously just unlucky if you've got a set as 7's and Ten's are unlikely because of my hand. I actually thought you were in a decent spot to squeeze light too, certainly I'd be squeezing in your spot some of the time.

I was briefly considering whether to flat and shove over your turn c-bet, assuming a safe turn, or just get it in on the flop. Heh, I'm used to people stacking off here soooo light vs me I just opted to try and get it in.

I'd only start to even consider passing a suspected underset in extreme circumstances, like if we were 1000+ BB's deep or if I have TONS of history to suggest villain only makes this move with a higher set but even then it's tough IMO.

Just my take on it anyway for what it's worth... You're obviously a very good player and perhaps just overthought this spot a little? Get it in with fist pump.

BTW, I was on the table for that Rupinder Bedi hand. That was sick - live poker def. rigged.
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2008, 01:11:52 AM »

no way nick has AA or KK here ever

Correct. Never ever.

The P/F raiser I'm donking into has the Aces. He didn't go for the RR though unfortunately.
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2008, 01:15:19 AM »

Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever pass in this spot. If your beat, your beat /thread
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2008, 01:19:02 AM »

Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever pass in this spot. If your beat, your beat /thread

You'd insta pass to me though cos you know I just play Nutzzzzzz. 
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2008, 01:20:24 AM »

Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever pass in this spot. If your beat, your beat /thread

You'd insta pass to me though cos you know I just play Nutzzzzzz. 

LOL I'm in with 5kkkkkkkkkkkkkk, if u ever get me set over set you get the house keys mate..........

btw while I'm posting just bubbled pca package so fk poker for the moment, ugh.
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« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2008, 01:50:59 AM »

Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever pass in this spot. If your beat, your beat /thread

You'd insta pass to me though cos you know I just play Nutzzzzzz. 

LOL I'm in with 5kkkkkkkkkkkkkk, if u ever get me set over set you get the house keys mate..........

btw while I'm posting just bubbled pca package so fk poker for the moment, ugh.

Damn, unlucky mate.
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« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2008, 02:00:54 AM »

sorry i thought nick was the aggressor preflop
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« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2008, 03:25:01 AM »

Not read past opening post. Dont pass ever. Not for 325 bbs, not for 3250 bbs not for 3.25m bbs
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« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2008, 04:49:33 AM »

I can understand your thinking, but believe you have crossed off too many possible holdings. You've also got to consider his view of you, not just in the sense that he's unfamiliar with you as a player, but that your raise could represent a number of hands in which his aces, T-7, 7-5 or whatever is beating. With the dosh already in there and the fold equity (even if not huge), he may also be happy to shove it in with the flush draw. You're only losing to one hand here, I think you've got to stick it in.
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« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2008, 01:40:26 PM »

lol, just screamed 1010 or 77 to me where i'm crushed, as 10 7 was a marginal call pre, and i really thought it was a made hand and not a draw.

no wonder i've won all my money in poker in tournaments.

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