Elimination hand at Thanet GUKPT

[action man]

save the green

[AlexMartin]

save the green

haha

[Royal Flush]

This is one of my fave ever threads!

[RobS]

lol

Dubai as if you've ever folded Ace Ten preflop in your life!

[Royal Flush]

lol

Dubai as if you've ever folded Ace Ten preflop in your life!

I saw him pas JJ! Getting tight in his old age!

[easypickings]

Flushy and Dubai,

There is really one fair way to measure a player's success in poker. It's not what kind of game they talk, or what they might seem capable of, but their results.

Anyone can claim any achievements they like on the internet, and so the only true way to measure a poker player is their live results. At the moment, this would make Simon Trumper a far better player than the two of you. His list of results is far longer (admittedly partly as he has played for far longer), but also more consistent.

This is a shame, as I suspect that you are better players than a solid member of the old school; in fact, probably much better players. (And this is not meant to be of detriment to Simon at all, I think he has a great game).

However, alot of being a good player is first of all getting off your arse to play, and then really giving a damn when you get there. This is part of what Simon does very well, and this could translate the real talent you have into something that everyone can respect. Until then, I think you have to respect the many achievements he has had.

[Royal Flush]

Flushy and Dubai,

There is really one fair way to measure a player's success in poker. It's not what kind of game they talk, or what they might seem capable of, but their results.

Anyone can claim any achievements they like on the internet, and so the only true way to measure a poker player is their live results. At the moment, this would make Simon Trumper a far better player than the two of you. His list of results is far longer (admittedly partly as he has played for far longer), but also more consistent.

This is a shame, as I suspect that you are better players than a solid member of the old school; in fact, probably much better players. (And this is not meant to be of detriment to Simon at all, I think he has a great game).

However, alot of being a good player is first of all getting off your arse to play, and then really giving a damn when you get there. This is part of what Simon does very well, and this could translate the real talent you have into something that everyone can respect. Until then, I think you have to respect the many achievements he has had.

If i cash for $1m live but spend $1.2m in the process that does make me a good player?

[DungBeetle]

The point about live scores is an extremely valid one imo.  How many players have extremely impressive looking CVs on the Hendon Mob database but in fact enter every big buy in live tournament going and are in fact down for their activities?  Whether this is offset by sponsorship/endorsements is another issue, but I think it's far easier to obtain an online tournament player's ROI.  A case in point (ignoring the fact that he is bought in by sponsors for most tournaments) how much has Phil Hellmuth for all his success actually spent in buy-ins over the years considering he would play any tournament for any buy in in the world given enough media exposure?  What is his real ROI on his buy-ins?  Up I'm sure, but not as impressive as his roster of cashes would suggest.

Live player career results need to be taken bearing this in mind I think.

[action man]

The point about live scores is an extremely valid one imo.  How many players have extremely impressive looking CVs on the Hendon Mob database but in fact enter every big buy in live tournament going and are in fact down for their activities?  Whether this is offset by sponsorship/endorsements is another issue, but I think it's far easier to obtain an online tournament player's ROI.  A case in point (ignoring the fact that he is bought in by sponsors for most tournaments) how much has Phil Hellmuth for all his success actually spent in buy-ins over the years considering he would play any tournament for any buy in in the world given enough media exposure?  What is his real ROI on his buy-ins?  Up I'm sure, but not as impressive as his roster of cashes would suggest.

Live player career results need to be taken bearing this in mind I think.

+10000000    but dont tap the glass

[Thekellster89]

Open limping is just so bad

open limping with antes in play is horrible imo

[NoflopsHomer]

Open limping is just so bad

open limping with antes in play means the terrorists have won.

[Rupert]

the games are still good

[Thekellster89]

And Stu u getting paid per word u write or something because a hand where u ship less than 12bbs in with AT in a tourny is probably worth 20 words max

+1

unopened pot.

[George2Loose]

Let the boys have their fun, but when it comes to a deep knowledge of the game, & almost unparalled record of success, you've been there, seen it, & done it. That's all that needs to be said.

Do you think Simon has played more comps than i have? Do you think Simon has won more comps than i have?

Assuming Simon has played 1 tournament every day for his 14years of playing i would have more experience....

Not having a go here it's just incorrect to assume Simon has more experience than myself or Dave.

But online experience is different to live games.  No? 

It most certainly is - very different.

Mr Flush would likely wipe the floor with Simon Trumper Online - I'm not even sure Simon plays Online.

B & M is a whole different game, & I'm happy to back Simon rather than almost any other player n that department at any buy-in Level. And I'd back Flushy Online if I could - though I think someone like Tom McCready would give me a better run, more times than not.

But that misses the point completely.

Both players can teach guys like us a great deal, & they can do that not by saying "that's right/wrong/drivel", but by explaining "why". That's the clever bit, & that's why we have a PHA Board.

One of my fave threads ever.

Bet that flushy will never win anything live.

One massive level from Stu?

[Longy]

Classic thread.

Dubai is the greatest.