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« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2008, 11:50:32 AM »

think you can find a lot better spots to get it in, in comps like this , so just call and hope to hit the river hard then extract value
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2008, 12:51:53 PM »

I feel I'm not in good form at the moment and wanted to get a view on this to see if it's me or just a bad time I'm going through

If this is a typical hand you can see why you're going through a bad patch at the moment. When we are low in confidence we tend to take the fudge option and limp here. If you do this you turn your hand into suited connectors and so should typically be looking to play a small pot unless you hit big. The problem is when you hit tp it will be hard not to think you've hit big, and you will play the hand like you did actually raise pre-flop. You find yourself in a situation where you thought K-Qs was only good enough to call 30 chips pre....but post flop one pair now seems good enough to commit 3k chips with. The other disadvantage of limping is having to play oop throughout the hand. Why invite things to be more difficult for yourself? Why give your oppo an advantage?

If I raised pre I would be happy to get it in on the turn. But in a limped pot I think checking the turn is better. It keeps the pot smaller....which is what you wanted to do.
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« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2008, 02:51:18 PM »

this early i'd just complete the sb. would c/c the flop. would lead the turn if flop got checked thru if not c/c again.  would lead the river if turn got checked thru if not c/c again unless i complete flush in which case i would lead out.
 
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as played id call the 300 - kinda horrible spot cos i think you have to fold river if you dont improve.


This most of the time, but sometimes I think you can raise, especially in a $5 where people will limp a lot of shit on the button.
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« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2008, 04:16:52 PM »

I feel I'm not in good form at the moment and wanted to get a view on this to see if it's me or just a bad time I'm going through

If this is a typical hand you can see why you're going through a bad patch at the moment. When we are low in confidence we tend to take the fudge option and limp here. If you do this you turn your hand into suited connectors and so should typically be looking to play a small pot unless you hit big. The problem is when you hit tp it will be hard not to think you've hit big, and you will play the hand like you did actually raise pre-flop. You find yourself in a situation where you thought K-Qs was only good enough to call 30 chips pre....but post flop one pair now seems good enough to commit 3k chips with. The other disadvantage of limping is having to play oop throughout the hand. Why invite things to be more difficult for yourself? Why give your oppo an advantage?

If I raised pre I would be happy to get it in on the turn. But in a limped pot I think checking the turn is better. It keeps the pot smaller....which is what you wanted to do.

lol so he is both too passive and too aggressive???
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« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2008, 05:49:55 PM »

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lol so he is both too passive and too aggressive???

Yep, absolutely right. A common example of this is when you limp with Aces UTG expecting a raise, the raise doesn't come, but you play the hand as forcefully as you would have in a raised HU pot anyway....even though you're actually in a multi-way limped pot. You are being both too passive and then too aggressive with your hand. So well done to James for that spot.
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« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2008, 07:35:48 PM »

Just flat the turn and hope you improve on the river!
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