Awkward Stack Size from GUKPT Main Event

[Blatch]

Hey all,

This hand is still bugging me 2 weeks on so opinions needed please.

Been at table for around a level and have been quiet due to managing a short ish stack.  Have reently won a decent pot so up to around 17k at 150/300 level.  Marc Goodwin is sat direct to your right and has been quite quiet for him and has around 16k or so.  He raised from MP to 900 and I look down at and flat call.  No one else is in the pot and the flop comes down  .  Marc leads out for 1000 - whats your move?

Thoughts going through my head at the time was that I didnt want to have to call an all in here but obviously more than happy to get my chips in the middle if im there first.  Is this wrong?  Should I just be looking for a way to get them in here?

[Royal Flush]

Make a really grubby raise so you can 4 bet smash.

[Dry em]

Make a really grubby raise so you can 5 bet smash.

FYP

[doubleup]

Make a really grubby raise so you can 4 bet smash.

Then villain might just call with an overpair and see what the turn brings.  If he does what is your plan for the turn?

[LeKnave]

Make a really grubby raise so you can 5 bet smash.

FYP

[  ] 5 bet
[X] 4 bet

[MC]

Thoughts going through my head at the time was that I didnt want to have to call an all in here but obviously more than happy to get my chips in the middle if im there first.  Is this wrong?  Should I just be looking for a way to get them in here?

You shouldn't see much difference between calling and raising all-in in this situation.

If he gets his chips in first, you're still going to be up against the same range of hands; but maybe some bluffs as well - which is a good thing

If you get your chips in first you're giving him a chance to fold a hand he might make a move with, but you still have same equity against a hand that calls against you.

You have to raise this flop, cos you don't want to see a J,Q,K, A or even a 5 peel the turn, which is simply too many cards. Pump it up, and be prepared to ship it in if it comes back to you...

[doubleup]

Thoughts going through my head at the time was that I didnt want to have to call an all in here but obviously more than happy to get my chips in the middle if im there first.  Is this wrong?  Should I just be looking for a way to get them in here?

You shouldn't see much difference between calling and raising all-in in this situation.

If he gets his chips in first, you're still going to be up against the same range of hands; but maybe some bluffs as well - which is a good thing

If you get your chips in first you're giving him a chance to fold a hand he might make a move with, but you still have same equity against a hand that calls against you.

You have to raise this flop, cos you don't want to see a J,Q,K, A or even a 5 peel the turn, which is simply too many cards. Pump it up, and be prepared to ship it in if it comes back to you...

I don't think OP is ever considering calling.  He would like to arrange things so that he has some chance to make a better hand fold.  Although IMO its unlikely that villain will ever 3 bet and fold.

 

[NoflopsHomer]

Raise to 4k and shove turn.

[AlexMartin]

lol, i love click it back. Call is fine too.

[NoflopsHomer]

Also Neil, why didn't you call after that or whatever the flop was after the guy raised you then already had his whole stack in the middle in case you pushed when you clearly had an overpair? Once he did that, it was obvious he was on a big draw and you could call and shove/check-shove any blank turn (I can't remember the stack sizes).

[NoflopsHomer]

lol, i love click it back. Call is fine too.

Call is also ok. I also think if Marc 3-bets here, he's not folding.

[Royal Flush]

Make a really grubby raise so you can 4 bet smash.

Then villain might just call with an overpair and see what the turn brings.  If he does what is your plan for the turn?

Check behind or bet 3/4 pot it depends on whether i think he will fold or not and obv what the turn is.

[hatthehole]

Make a really grubby raise so you can 5 bet smash.

FYP

[  ] 5 bet
[X] 4 bet

backraise his backraise imo

[ChipRich]

Make a really grubby raise so you can 5 bet smash.

FYP

[  ] 5 bet
[X] 4 bet

backraise his backraise imo

LOL

[hatthehole]

I cant see marc goodwin going crazy on this flop vs u (unless you'd done some crazy stuff).  he surely knows your not going to go broke with 77-JJ on this flop so i dont think he'd 3bet the flop with a big pair therefore i think your going to struggle to 4bet allin on flop.  I like the line of raising flop then if villian peels you have more options on turn.  if he leads into you on turn (unlikely imo) id jam any turn card.  If you dont improve deicde on what your image has been as to whether you'll be able to barrel (including being prepared to barrel river since he could peel again with AA-99 with a plan to fold to your river shove).  If you table image is a bit shit/ you dont think he feels like folding i might check back turn (obviously your hand is face up if you do this). if you improved on turn I'd try decide best route for max value.  Alternatively I'd probably just peel the flop.